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Vetteman94 on 18 June 2009
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Avinash_Tyagi said:
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Over China they wouldn't need the same level of AWAC network.

the F/A-18 isn't a fifth gen fighter either, that's the plane that the Navy uses on their aircraft carriers, China has SU-30MKK's and SU-27's the SU-30MKK is on par with the F/A-18 and the SU-27's aren't that far behind, I think you have an overinflated idea of what the US air power can do.

Why would the Chinese need less AWAC's support?  It's not about knowing where the terrain is, it's about knowing where enemy planes and SAM sites are.

MOST (I grant you, not all) of China's air force consists of ageing Soviet-era planes.  In much the same way as a MIG is a theoretically capable plane, the reality is that constant upgrades to technology and better maintenance in US planes has resulted in once-equivelant planes facing vast real-world performance differences.  That is the reality of the majority of the US air force versus China's.  Also, unless I am very much mistaken, the USA's fifth generation fighters are carrier-capable.  I am sure in the event of a war they would be placed onto carriers.

Because they'd have ground based radar systems as well, and US wouldn't have any SAM sites in China

The F-35 is the only fifth gen US fighter capable of carrier use, and it hasn't entered mass production yet.  The SU-30MKK is a modern fighter, and is considered a 4.5 generation fighter, most SU-27's that China flies are modern and quite capable fighters.  US would be fielding F/A-18's which according to DERA is less capable than an SU-27M (AKA SU-35), according to DERA the F/A-18 only has .4 to 1 odds of beating a SU-27M/SU-35, so its very unlikely that the US's F/A-18's would be able to achieve air supremecy, in fact its very likely we'd have a lot of dead US pilots

And the F-15E/K/SG, F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and the F-16 Block 50/52 are also considered to be 4.5 generation aircraft as well.  Not to mention that the Chinese military only has about 100 of the planes you speak of with the majority of their other planes being lesser 4th gen fighters. As for your SU-35 their are only 12 in exsistence, and all are controlled by the Russian Air Force.  And you keep mentioning DERA like its concrete information, it was a war simulation.   The pilots of every plane were all considered equals, but anyone who knows anything about military powers knows that the US Air Force pilots are second to none.