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Avinash_Tyagi said:
starcraft said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
starcraft said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
starcraft said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Over China they wouldn't need the same level of AWAC network.

the F/A-18 isn't a fifth gen fighter either, that's the plane that the Navy uses on their aircraft carriers, China has SU-30MKK's and SU-27's the SU-30MKK is on par with the F/A-18 and the SU-27's aren't that far behind, I think you have an overinflated idea of what the US air power can do.

Why would the Chinese need less AWAC's support?  It's not about knowing where the terrain is, it's about knowing where enemy planes and SAM sites are.

MOST (I grant you, not all) of China's air force consists of ageing Soviet-era planes.  In much the same way as a MIG is a theoretically capable plane, the reality is that constant upgrades to technology and better maintenance in US planes has resulted in once-equivelant planes facing vast real-world performance differences.  That is the reality of the majority of the US air force versus China's.  Also, unless I am very much mistaken, the USA's fifth generation fighters are carrier-capable.  I am sure in the event of a war they would be placed onto carriers.

Because they'd have ground based radar systems as well, and US wouldn't have any SAM sites in China

The F-35 is the only fifth gen US fighter capable of carrier use, and it hasn't entered mass production yet.  The SU-30MKK is a modern fighter, and is considered a 4.5 generation fighter, most SU-27's that China flies are modern and quite capable fighters.  US would be fielding F/A-18's which according to DERA is less capable than an SU-27M (AKA SU-35), according to DERA the F/A-18 only has .4 to 1 odds of beating a SU-27M/SU-35, so its very unlikely that the US's F/A-18's would be able to achieve air supremecy, in fact its very likely we'd have a lot of dead US pilots

I just read a couple of papers submitted to Congress, and research documents.  The conclusion is that in all liklihood the United States would successfully be able to subdue China on it's own turf.  But there would indeed be massive casualties for the US due too China's air force, anti-ship missles and SAM sites.  Ultimately the US hopes to counter this with Prompt Global Strike (PGS) and F-22 Raptors.  They would allow the destruction of the Chinese military access denial assets far more effectively than exposing the Navy too said anti-ship cruise missiles and air defenses.



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