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TheRealMafoo said:

You miss the point.

Let’s say I wanted into McDonalds, and the guy in front of me ordered a #1 and was charged $4.00. I then order the #1 and am charged $5.00. I ask why, and they said "well, it really cost $4.50 to make it and turn a profit, but you looked better off than the guy in front of you, so I charged you for some of his food."

ManusJustus’s argument is the same as if I said “I don’t want to pay that” as meaning “I want my food for free”.

I expect to pay taxes, and to pay for a system of government. I even expect to pay more to protect the poor.

I will never be happy with being forced to pay to take care of the poor. Taking care of them is there job, or something I should be allowed to give my money to help.

It being forced upon me is indenturing me. We can talk until we are blue in the face, but it won’t change that fact.

So you're willing to trade away some freedom for a military and police force to protect you from invaders and criminals, but you're not willing to trade some freedom for protection from starvation and disease. Some are willing to do the opposite, or to pay for both, or to pay for neither.

The trick is that we all lose some measure of freedom just for tacitly signing the social contract. And the decision as to how much freedom we pay, and what goods we get in exchange for that freedom, is decided by the society, and administrated by the government. We're all 'enslaved' by society, and limited to our small role in the larger machine and what influence we can manage to claim. You're not any more of a slave for having to pay for a hobo's food stamps than a pacifist is a slave for having to pay for cluster bombs.



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