Bitmap Frogs said:
I just did and you didn't realize. I used an intertextual reference to something appropiate to the subject of this thread yet one you and people with a similar background as yours wouldn't recognize thus turning the intertextual reference in a "inside joke" making fun out of you; thus showing to everyone but you and people with a similar background as yours how intertextual references aren't necessarily good. The problem here is you are working on a sort of circular logic, to you xenosaga is awesome and as it prominently features intertextual reference intertextual references have to be awesome too and since intertextual references are a literary/language device they reinforce the notion that xenosaga is more than just a game. In truth, intertextual references are just like pepper. Is pepper good or bad? depends, just like intertextual references it might be used to enhance the dish or to cover the taste of rotten fish (that's more fancy language, it's a device called consonance which just like intertextual references isn't necessarily good neither). In any case, a shitload of intertextual references just like an overdose of pepper just means the cook had a lot of pepper available, not necessarily that the end result is desirable. People don't reply to you because you are too close-minded; there's a clear hint there when you say "but they don't understand/aren't smart enough to understand". Here's a pro tip: real smarty people do not say that, they realize where's the other guy coming from, what's his mental frame and rearrange the message as needed so it can bridge the gap. When you kept repeating INTERTEKSTUAL INTERTEKSTUAL SUPERFLAT INTERTEKSTUAL did it even cross your mind that the problem wasn't that people didn't understand that, but that the mere repetition of fancy words isn't a convincing argument? |
Finally an answer worth replaying to.
What do you mean by similar backround?
I`ve explained why the references are good in Xenosaga`s story, but I`ll try again:
You have the main story. Inside the main story are intertextual references to psychology and interpreptions of many of the biggest philosofers and psychologists in the world; Jung and Nietzsche.
There are hords of references to different religions.
So, you say what does it mean to the story itself? Absolutlely nothing to many, BUT for people that`s well read you can see what the game creator want you to experience with the game.
Example:
Momo is a little girl without parents.
Momo is a girl from a known german novel without parents. If you read it you can draw similarities and think f.ex: "Is the girl being drawn to the same fate as the story in the german novel?"
It does make the story better when it`s more complex, or do you disagree?
So how do you know if the references are more than salt and pepper on a dis-tasteful steak? You just have to believe me. But I have an argument why the game have a good story.
What should I say when people are replaying/saying something different to my questions/answers? I couldn`t come up with anything better than: they don`t understand.
No, it didn`t cross my mind, and no-one but me is to blame for that. Nonetheless I have to try to make people understand. I really thought when people didn`t understand they`d say that they don`t understand or don`t reply. Look at the person with Devil-Jin avatar. He kept bashing Jrpg`s and cheering for stan when he meant he won the thread even though I haven`t answered stan.
That`s a typical person that can`t admit his limits. He shouldn`t bother mingling into this thread when it became to "advanced" for him.
I know now where the limits are on these forums and I will adapt for later threads.
I`m really sorry, and I`m the to blame for it.
Hope you understand. My english isn`t perfect.
Thank you
