DS domination is not entirely based on Nintendo's previous monopoly, but it is largely the result of it.
I give up on this part now, can you at least agree on that Barin Training and Nintendodogs is selling to a new market segment?
I'm not a big Gran Turismo fan. What I meant was that it's the biggest global property. It can move millions in all three territories. The only thing I'd put in the same category is Final Fantasy, which also happens to be a PS3 exclusive.
Well I can think of Wii Sport today on the consols, zelda seems to sell some units today also.
All publishers will release games for Wii whether it's first or third. That's not the issue. It's what kind of games they're releasing.
Yes most probarbly they will go for female titles, and some few will put up some decent fps/sand box/etc.
Gamecube had what was close to a record setting launch (if not for Xbox), even though it fell off a cliff immediately after the hype died.
Ehh GameCube had one good month in USA (japan and Eu was a joke), then it drop of to under 100k some month after. Wii has sold for 5 month straight. Sales of Wii and GameCube cant be compared.
DS is selling better than GBA ever did... in Japan. It's falling way short here. At 28 months, GBA was at 15.5 million units. DS is at 11.8 million.
But it is the best selling system now! The difference between USA and Japan is that gba has sold really well even after the launch of the DS.
I'm curious to see how the GTA sales go down. Seems to be people think it's a foregone conclusion it will sell better on 360, but the PS3 version doesn't have to compete with Halo.
Well I personally think that the GTA crowd haven't chosen plattform yet and will leave PS2 when GTA IV comes out, and they will chose the cheapest consol.
As far as Nintendo's failure, we go back to how they had no major third party support.
Wii needs more than just a bunch of exclusives put together in some guy's basement.
People are buying the more expensive machine, but we go again to how the PS3 won't be $600 forever.
First, Nintendo is getting more exclusivs from both Japanese and Western devloper just now the just have a lot of cheap ports but more is coming. Treasure Island, MySims (and no Kwaad MySims doesn't come to PSP, go to ign.com and make a search wont you?), Re:UC, Red Steel, SSX Blur and the list goes on. Not many of these will sell millions of consol. But MySims and Boogie can possible be that kind of games.
Nintendo's stated for years they aren't part of the tech race, that gameplay was the most important thing, and that they thought that the focus on graphics was problematic. This isn't new. I'm not gonna convince people who believe it is new otherwise, as apparently they have not been paying attention to Nintendo's repeated statements of this nature long before Wii was even a factor.
But today Nintendo is different from the competition, even if you will call the Wiimote a fad.
Sony can drop $100 at a pop. How many times can the others do that? Microsoft: once. Nintendo: zero. It's still not an attractive price until we see around $400, but they have a lot of room to move and several years to do it.
Excuse me isn't Nintendo and Microsoft doing a profit on their hardware now meanwhile Sony is taking a 100 USD+ loss per sold consol. Why would Sony win a price war?
The most sensible option at this time is to publish major games on both PS3 and 360. What third party killer apps (or even close to it) does Nintendo have? Even many Nintendo supporters don't expect them to get much.
For the moment, I would say that MySims and Boogie could be. That doesn't matter yet anyway because Wii Sport and Zelda will drive sales for at least another 6 months. (if Wii Sport get the same legs as Brain Training in Japan we could possible speak about 2 years)
Wii is a good platform to develop for. It's just not a good platform to spend a lot of time on. This is the prevailing wisdom among third parties. A few months won't change that. Another year if all things remain constant might.
Don't see how a top 10 of both systems proves your point. On the Wii side, we've got all 5 games Nintendo's released (including all of the top 4) alongside the third party games. On the PS3 side, it's primarily third party games, and the numbers aren't that different from the Wii numbers, despite half the userbase.
What I wanted to point out with that list was the following, PS3 and Wii 3rd party sales in one simple top ten list for USA.
- Rayman Raving Rabbids: 375,250 (Wii)
- Red Steel: 335,500 (Wii)
- Madden NFL: 335,250 (PS3)
- Madden NFL: 311,250 (Wii)
- Super Monkey Ball: 267,250 (Wii)
- Call of Duty 3: 251,250 (Wii)
- Call of Duty 3: 212,000 (PS3)
- Marvel Ultimate Alliance: 207,250 (Wii)
- Need for Speed Carbon: 185,500 (PS3)
- Trauma Center: Second Opinion: 172,000 (Wii)
Wii is selling more 3rd party games than PS3. So why shouldn't it be a good idea to make games for Wii. Even if Nintendo domination is a part of any Nintendo plattform, 3rd party stills have better sales than on PS3. So far the problem for PS3 that is doesn't have the userbase to substain a lot of 3rd party sales. If it isn't a good idea to spend much time on Wii why should it be a good idea to spend time on PS3?
I still don't see how Nintendo's tapped the casual crowd this early. This seems to be merely an assumption, though I'm really not sure what this is based on. Apparently the "surprising" success of the sequel to the system that sold 120 million units and not much more.
1+ million units a month does not allow them to both continue at the same pace and also have 9 million units available for the 4th quarter. People are just picking numbers to see who can win the contest to pick the most outrageous one. I'm waiting for the first estimate to use the word gazillion.
I don't see that it is an assumption that Nintendo is picking the casual crowd in Japan at least where Wii Sport is a non pack in game that is almost every week in top ten.
Gears of War isn't doing Microsoft any good? Huh?
It is, but their exist more than one gaiming crowd.
Sony didn't pay for Motorstorm and Resistance... they just paid to market them. Which is a page out of the handbook Nintendo used to have.
They paid for the game also.
Sony issued a sales goal? Sony ever issues sales goals?
Nintendo hasn't released games like Mario and SSB yet. If third parties can't even compete with Warioware, they're going to have some serious trouble when those games come around.
It's a sad, sad day when people start pimping Cooking Mama as a system seller.
Never said Cooking Mama was a system seller, I just stated that it was one more game to show off in one now genre. 3rd party can fight on Nintendo plattforms if they just doesn't do a quick port without any advertisment. 3rd party do not need to be the best on Nintendo plattforms they just need to make money.
Buy it and pray to the gods of Sigs: Naznatips!
