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MontanaHatchet on 14 June 2009
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naznatips said:
MontanaHatchet said:
naznatips said:
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It's not going to beat IX for me already because Lightning is a Cloud clone... so I guess basically zero for me.

So despite all of the things that go into a great game, you've already based that off of Lightning being similar to Cloud? For that matter, Steiner was similar to Dekar. I don't know why anyone would really care.

The start of any great JRPG is great characters. This is especially true of Final Fantasy. Cloud was annoying as hell. How is it silly to not like a game as much because it has bad characters?

Yeah, but it's not the only thing. You may think Cloud is annoying, but not every one does. He definitely could have been a better character, but other characters in the cast made up for that. And the start of any great JRPG is great gameplay. In fact, it's the same for any game. And while Lightning might not be that great of a character (at least going by what you say), the rest of the cast could be excellent.

P.S. Why was Khuutra banned?

Er... I never said anything about anyone else. See highlighted section in red.

Most JRPGs don't have great gameplay. There are a couple exceptions like Pokemon, but the general FF turn-based gameplay is very simplistic and lacks strategy... Unless you are talking about FFXII in which case it's complex but once you figure out what you are doing you can beat the game without picking up the controller in combat. 

@bobobologna Confirmed that she was modeled after Cloud. source.

PS: Yeah yeah I unbanned him. Chill out people.

I can understand you saying that most JRPGs don't have great gameplay, but Pokemon? Seriously...what? Pokemon has the most simplistic and boring battle system of any RPG that I know of. One character at a time, 4 moves, and they're probably the easiest RPGs on the market. Made for kids with kids in mind. And if you can beat fights in FF12 without picking up the controller, than that means you designed your Gambits very well. Part of the strategy of the game, and it's entirely optional.