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to me ocarina was the best game of all time until mgs4 came along..the game just had so many great moments, like the intense battles in the middle east or fighting alongside rebels in south america and the slow motion parts during the chase in europe and the entire level on shadow moses which reminded u of the origins of this amazing series...and who can forget the microwave hallway scene in the last act (which gamespot awarded the best moment of 2008)...for me it was a tough decision choosing mgs4 over OOT but i felt that this was finally the game that beat it and it was time to pass the torch on...so yes for me mgs4 is the greatest of all time