Let's talk UK politics ....

[SciFiBoy]

kowenicki said:

SciFiBoy said:

im not an expert, never claimed to be, i also said "something like" i know the example aint perfect, but tbh, youd complain about any system that made you pay taxes to help the less fortunate, so whats the point?

some people on here, are so self righteous and arrogant about this issue for whatever reason, that they seem to think that poor people are living it up on benefits and get the easy life, which is utter bullshit, you people who complain about these things, are clearly so far up your own rear ends, that the concept of being poor or needing support to get by, is  unknown to you, especially thoose of you who "claim" to have come from poor backgrounds, how dare you suggest that everyone is like you, people are different, so you did well, good for you, that dosent mean you have the right to look down on everyone else.

try responding without sounding sanctimonuos, then maybe we can have a debate, till then, i have no intrest in talking to you people.

oh and by the way, inheritance tax, i believe you only currently pay when you inheret over 300k, how many people do you think get that much? and then, why is it unfair that some goes to help pay for the public services they no doubt use?

 

That post was totally out of order... I come from a background and upbringing probably poorer than most on this site, certainly poorer than yours!!

I remember as a child hiding from the rent man behind the sofa, in our terraced private rental propery, scratching ice from the INSIDE of my bedroom window to look out, emptying the mousetraps,  having custard, from custard powder, for tea - two days running, wearing hand me down clothes etc etc etc.   You make it sound like I should be ashamed of turning that round and earning good money, employing people and being successful. 

Dont EVER judge me again! or call me a liar!   Yes I am angry.

Its YOU that sounds sanctimonious, not me. 

with one post, you say poor people are doing fine and dont deserve help...

with the nexy you say you went throught hard times when you were poor...

so, there not poor because you were?

and you think because you overcame it, everyone can...

which is bullshit, you dont even consider peoples life choices, just your personal greed now that you are rich, well done, the poor person you used to be, must feel sick looking at you now.

i didnt say you were a liar, and you judged me earlier in the thread, at least mine wasnt baseless...

my post isnt out of order, your views on poverty are, especially as you were in it yourself, do you not see the hippocracy in your views?

is it really sanctimonius of me, to think that people shouldnt have to go through what you went through?

maybe if you let your life have impact on your views, rather than right wing propoganda, youd have different views.

as for people saying, i have no right to have my views, as im not as poor as the people i want to help, im glad i dont have your view of the world, if everyone did, many more poor people would die.

im getting sick of these forums aswell, everytime, i take a more liberal view of an issue, i get flamed by 5+ users, and im sick of it, all you do is piss me off, you rarely address my points, you just post flamebait, all of you, then say im wrong to get annoyed by it, on other forums, many of you would be banned for such blatantly inflamitory posts...

goodbye, enjoy flaming this and ignoring my points again, i wont be here to read them, so waste your time, not mine