"Gran Turismo does not move the genre foreward, Forza does."

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Fame_Mcswagg said:

Onyxmeth said:

For those refuting the claims that Forza is moving the genre forward in comparison to GT, can you at least give reasonable arguments? I haven't heard one thing thus far from anyone saying GT is in fact the one pushing the genre forward that has proven anything. More pro racers play it? Not moving the industry forward. Better graphics? I suppose it's moving the industry forward a bit, but ultimately it can be the same game if it looks like Forza or if it looks like GT. It doesn't affect the game at all. More cars/tracks? Very cool. Selection is great. Moving the genre forward though? Hardly. It's just a dick measuring contest.

I would just like to hear from fans of GT what they have added to their games that is unlike anything we've seen in Forza. What Forza has advanced is evident. It's been said throughout this thread. What has GT done to actually move the genre forward? What does Forza need to catch up on?

well to start...attention to detail.from the tracks to how each car actually performs. gt does this far better than anyone thats why saying the pros use it is valid...before gt there was just racing games. gt is a true driving sim......I would also like to add i know nothing of forza never played. but i do know what gt offers. i asked about previous forza titles and all i got was graphics and damage nothing really crazy is there anything im missing?

There have been numerous threads where people come in and explain why Forza 2 has better handling and feel.  But they are useually derailed by those who claim you cannot tell how something feels unless you have really driven on a course with a "race" car (which is total bs).  

I have played all but one of the GT's and every Forza game released (with a decent wheel).  And to me the handling and tuning of the cars in Forza is very much superior to those of GT.  Most people without an agenda will probably tell you the same thing.     I think that is why a lot of the GT crowd are gob smacked by the latest look of Forza.  They are afraid that now along with those qualities it has the graphics to match anything GT has.

So to sum it up, the attention to detail has always been there with the Forza series, it just didn't have the looks.

 

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One last point I would like to add.  I obviously love the GT series as well or I wouldn't have owned  most of the games for it.  I just have to agree with one of the posters above and say that yes indeed GT has been playing catch up on a lot of its features.  And I don't understand why some of the GT guys are so torn up over this.  

If I still owned a PS3, GT 5 would be a purchase for sure, alongside Forza 3.  Both of these games make each other better and without each other I am sure neither would have made as many strides as they have.