Let's talk UK politics ....

[Soleron]

SciFiBoy said:

Soleron said:
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so if someone chooses to be a nurse rather than a bussinessman, theyre an idiot who didnt work hard enough and deserves to earn less for that alone

so what if we all became bussinessmen then? who would do all the things you think only idiots and lazy people do?

why should you become a scientist?

because you want too, surely?

if you want to do something, pay dosent mean much to you, what im saying is that we should make the system so, no matter what you do, you have a basic standard of living, im not saying we should stop people from earinng more, im saying that if you earn more, then you should pay more in tax to help thoose who arent as well off.

No, I'm being a scientist because I want to help society. I could easily become a doctor if money was my only motivation. Typical salaries for research scientists are 25k or so, yet I'll have to work a lot harder studying than if I wanted to become a binman. And then I'll have to work many more hours than a binman. Finally, binmen have better pensions because they are state employees.

There is a need for some binmen-level workers; these can be filled by the idiots who don't work at school. They should drop out at 16. Idiots and lazy people can't become businessmen. Yes, people who become binmen DO NOT DESERVE the same standard of living as a businessman or other jobs that pay well. That's what I'm saying.

Your first statement makes no sense because nurses earn MORE than most businessmen. But I agree, if they choose to be a binman rather than a businessman they should earn less because they are not fulfilling their potential [Anyone can be a binman but it takes talent and hard work to be a businessman].

Like I said earlier, the value to jobs is whatever the free market determines. Intefering with that via taxation is interfering with the system that has produced the highest average standard of living in history.