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SciFiBoy on 06 June 2009
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Soleron said:
SciFiBoy said:
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we have no working class?

who the fuck drove the bus i was on then? who served me at the shop? who taught me at school? who treated me at hospital?

EVERYONE in the UK gets debt from going to Uni, rich or poor, the poor just get more help, which is good imo.

i agree some of the benefits system needs to be refined, i dont think people should cheat the system like they do, but we also cant do nothing, poor people have just as many rights as rich people.

All of those people you said will be able to afford several holidays a year and many lixury items like electronics, cars, owning their own houses, etc. They are not getting a bad deal and don't need politically represented like the old working class did. They are middle class (if class terms still apply at all).

Poor people get a disproportionate amount of help. To pay for my uni my parents will have to get second jobs. Whereas people I know at school in that poor mum / rich dad thing I said don't have to pay anything to go to uni; are able to buy a car to go there; are able to rent a flat solo etc. etc. That is unfair. Equal opportunity yes; favoured no. Also, the people that don't get good enough grades to enter uni but are poor are being selected above more able candidates from richer backgrounds. I've applied to lots of uni summer schools for the unis I want to attend and got rejected from all of them because my household income is too high.

Stop calling them poor people; they are not in poverty nor are they forced to live on basics. No one in this country is in poverty.

22k income people DO NOT DESERVE the same standard of living as 40k income people, because they did not work hard enough to earn more.

 

 

most people who "own" a home, do so through large mortgages

to pay for Uni, you can choose to take a loan or ask your parents to find a way of getting the money, its not my fault, you dont want a loan, imo we should make Uni free like the rest of education anyway

i dont think that many people get lots of holidays, but thats as much to do with Cheaper flights than anything else, i  think we should tax airlines alot more, im dont care if it means less holidays for me or anyone else.

cars are often paid for on finance not out right

people arent as well off as you think they are, what paper do you read?

ok, this be the big one: Why Do People On 22k not deserve the standard of living of someone on 40k, how do you know the guy on 40k works harder?

many of the most undesirable, hard working jobs are the lowest paid, yet the rich never acknowledge that, a CEO on average works 3 days a week, most people work 5, its not as simple as you earn more if you work more.