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kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
@scifiboy.... How could we get a right wing government, there is no right wing mainstream party any longer. Lib dems are the furthest left, Labour are left of centre and the Tories are pretty much centre.

depends how you define Left, Right or Centre

Left: Mainly Socialy Liberal policys
Right: Mainly Socialy Authoritarian policys
Centre: to be truly centrist is hard as you would need moderate policys on every issue

Old Labour: Centre Left
New Labour: Centre Right
Conservatives: Centre Right
Lib Dem: Centre Left

this is socialy, now economically

Left: Socialism
Right: Capitalism
Centre: Middle of the two, again hard to be moderate on all issues.

Old Labour: Centre Left
New Labour: Centre Right (1997 - 2008) Centre Left (2008 - )
Conservative: Right
Lib Dem: Centre Left




Old labour wasnt centre left.... it was maybe centre left left.. if you get my meaning.  It was also very very interventionist and authoritarian.  New labour has many of the same ideas.... they are just hidden, its a sham.  This Labour governement has taxed the average man more than any governement ever.... and wasted the lot.

from what ive read about old Labour, they were alot beter than New Labour, im not an expert on them though, i wasnt born till 1988, lol, they were gone by the time i followed politics.

not all taxes are bad, im an advocate of Progressive taxation personally, which generally is good for the average man or woman (average income is 22k or so, if i remember correctly) New Labour i agree have been bad on that, theyve been using reggressive taxation, that said, the Conservatives taxation policys are even more regressive from what i know of them, so take what you can get, i doubt someone on 22k a year would be better off under Cameron, 220k a year, now thats a different story, imo youre luck if you earn that though, its 10x the average wage.