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9Chiba on 06 June 2009
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DrYon said:
Bobbuffalo said:
DrYon said:

Answering the topic:

1 - Closer their ties with third-parties. Nintendo doesn't (actually, never) worked correctly with it's third-parties counterparts. Nintendo must change their philosophy that third-party games on their own system are direct competitors of it's first and second-party titles and a thread for them. Yes, that's the way Nintendo think and that's why third-parties are reluctant to work with. Nintendo should be more friendly toward them, just the way Sony and MS do. This'll bring more support and more sales.

2 - Expand their market. Nintendo is being conservative at best with it's franchises. Yes, they've created some new IPs, but very few were target toward it's old audience (not the casual which Nintendo is aiming). Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Music, Nintendogs and Brain Training public is completely different from Mario, Zelda and Metroid one. It's been a long, long time that Nintendo don't announce a new big budget IP. They should do what Sony is doing investing on new big budget IPs (Uncharted, Resistance, inFamous, The Last Guardian etc). New IPs would expand Nintendo audience and attract new players as well.

3 - Invest on genres they never done before. I would love to see a sandbox, FPS, stealth, FF-like RPG and a realistic racer made from Nintendo first-parties. That would be a bold and different move.

4 - Less greed. Nintendo should make better use of their extense amounts of money instead of using cheap and simple strategies just aiming easy money (Animal Crossing DS copy and paste for Wii for example). Unlike many says, it wouldn't a bad idea for Nintendo to acquire more first and second-parties to work with. It worked with Sony and Microsoft, why Nintendo should miss the boat?

1.-Nintendo right now has changed many of their 3d parties relationships..heck they changed it since the gamecube! that argument is very old and doesn't make sense now. what do you want them to do? make the games for them? Admit it, 3d parties had changed a lot, they have became more lazy and more detached from gamers, seeing themselves as the next stanley kubrick or the new andy warhol forgetting their true job:make games. Nitendo gaves them a cheap platfrom to develop and more liberties than before. And if you think that MS is better you are wrong. They charge more to the games companies make, had more expensive kits and they are more strict than Nintendo.

 

2.-AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THEIR LAUNCH?! Wii sports has extended the market like none other game has done in decades!!!!  are you that blind?!

 

3.-they would only use the genre they think the game fits not only because its cool.

4.-oh right because neither sony nor MS are greed right?

You are talking like what Nintendo is doing is perfect and flawless. You're wrong, amigo, very wrong. Let me get this straight:

1 - If Nintendo really changed, then explain me why so many third-parties are being so biased against Wii? EA and Ubisoft are the prime example of this. They're putting their major franchises on HD consoles and ignoring Wii's big user base. Where's Wii versions of Assassin's Creed 2, Modern Warfare 2, Dead Space 2, The Godfather 2 (considering how well praised the Wii version of the first game was)? Sometimes they say that Wii can't handle these games. But... haven't Ubisoft announced a Assassin's Creed version for PSP? EA announced Army of Two for PSP? Games that could easily been done on Wii. EA and Ubisoft are just examples, most third-parties are behaving this way. Oh, yes, you'll say Capcom for sure. If Capcom is so enthusiast of Wii, then why there's no Street Fighter 4, Resident Evil 5 and Lost Planet 2 for Wii? If you are acknowleding with this, then you are lost in the dark. Period.

2 - Do you really believe Wii Sports was target toward the old Nintendo audience? You miss my point completely.

3 - Fine for you if like to play the same genres over and over again. Not everyone will agree with you.

4 - Like all major companies, they are. But Nintendo is being outrageous greedy. With the money they have, they could expand their internal developers to a number no other company in the world could follow. Nintendo have enough money to buy Sega, Capcom, Konami and Square Enix all at once if they want and still have large amounts remaining.

1. right, because ubisoft and capcom, major PS3 third parties, are the only 3rd parties worth knowing.

2. look up the word "expansion". dont put that word and "old audience" in the same sentence, its confusing.

now show me proof that nintendo's old audience is no longer loyal to them (no, you don't count), and that it's unhappy with the 20something franchises still active or being brought back to life since the old days. sony makes new IPs because it HAS to. its first party franchise list pales in comparison to nintendo's.

3. Nintendo covers: plenty of Racing, excessive Platformers, decent Action-Adventure, a few RPGs, a little FPS, some Music & Rhythm, bit of Fighting, Flying, Strategy, some Sports. Hmm. yea, i think ill be just fine playing these 10 genres (plus third party stuff) over and over again. theyre not going to do the games you are suggesting (hackslash, sandbox, bloody FPS) because they want to keep their image.

4. wow, so nintendo could just buy up billion dollar companies with hundred million dollar net income? didnt realize it worked that way. besides, third parties kind of have to agree to being bought out. as for nintendo being "outrageously greedy"... hm, we're looking at three companies... nintendo is a for-profit pure gaming company. sony is a media conglomerate that entered the games race only because they saw (from nintendo's experience) that it was a profitable market. and microsoft only entered so the other two wouldnt take away customers from their PC. nintendo looks like a kitten compared to these two.

god, why cant you just say "nintendo wont please me, because im a fanboy", and leave it at that, instead of making up reasons for not having a wii. you look stupid because your arguments have too many holes. and its not like youd get a wii anyway.