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daroamer on 05 June 2009
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Khuutra said:
ironman said:

Damn straight you didn't realize who you were arguing with. I'm not letting you off that easy. That video is a representation of what MS want NATAL to do. It is also a Demo, meaning that they were (let me speak slowly here) d-e-m-o-n-s-t-r-a-t-i-n-g it's capabilities. In case you didn't see the vid (I still don't believe you did, otherwise we would not be having this debate) there is a girl in there driving a race car, she happens to be pretending to hold a steering wheel, when she moves her hands, the car turns. Its a pretty simple concept, why you can't grasp that is beyond me. Lets put it this way, this technology is already alive and working in the PC world. That right their trashes your whole argument. Also, ALL technology follows a linear progression. No way around it, there are certainly branches off that linear progress, but each branch progresses in a linear fashion.  I would say walk away before you pour gasoline on the ashes that were your argument, and light it on fire...buuuut, I am a pyro at heart, so, light away!

Don't make me post the facepalm pic again, please.

"Demo" in the video game industry is used to indicate that it is working with software that people can actually interact with. That wasn't what that was. It was a concept video, a teaser using pre-made, pre-rendered footage showing what may be possible if Natal works like they want it to. And no, the fact that the girl was driving a car doesn't automatically make it make sense - her feet never moved and nothing she did indicated that she was controlling her own speed. The fact that it happened in this pretend video does not mean that the pretend driving she was doing actually made sense. It didn't. People have noticed this before now.

Look, when you take a concept video like that and present it as "facts" or "proof", you've defeated your own argument.

Even ignoring the fact they had two live demos up on stage the tech was demonstrated for a number of reporters in private sessions with a modified version of Burnout and from all accounts it worked very well:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/989/989269p1.html

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-project-natal-hands-on?page=2