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Bitmap Frogs said:

 

If you aren't angry, how come you are all over the place pissing all over the threads. I understand than to wait for so many years losing on so many great games hoping for the day GT5 ships means you must idolize the game up to a certain point but all the flurry of posts these days? What's going on!

I certainly can't tell you how to spend your money, but I can certainly suggest things that'll make you happier. And if you are a car-guy who's into racing games, playing racing games helps. 

Both games have tweaked physics to improve playability but Forza's "god hand protecting you" is way, way less noticeable. Additionally, the boat physics applied to cars when it comes to collisions and racetrack elements on GT5p feel very very outdated. Finally, I feel Forza 2 offers way better feedback on car handling and grip than GT5p - the way you can feel you are riding the edge of grip on Forza 2 is amazing.

Then, there's damage - you were talking about how the lack of fear changes the way we drive in these games. Well, damage brings that fear back - you won't certainly break your neck playing a game, but a bad crash and it's time to reset the race. That penalty changes the way you play and makes you consider how aggresive or not you should be driving and when you are pushing it to catch the race leader knowing a mistake will send you back to the start it ticks in a way GT5p doesn't.

Granted, I haven't played GT5p in a long time and they've been patching things up so my impressions probably aren't up to date.

As I said, you are obviously free to do whatever you want to do but if you like to play racing games sitting on GT5p ignoring the Forza's and PGR's (this one's arcadeish but so fun and varied) isn't wise. 

 

You keep repeating the samething over and over again. I didn't just jump on Forza3. I stated my opinion on GT5P and Forza when people were making unfair comparison like using PR bullshot to compare with gameplay screenshot. How is it angry that I'm just disagree with other people's opinions on the graphics?

 

For the physics part, I'm not saying which has better physics but do you have any track experience to support your opinion? Just because it feels better doesn't mean it's behaving correctly. If you don't have any experience at it I don't know what are you basing on to claim Forza has better physics. Also, were you playing with a wheel or controller?

 

Damage - Yes, it's better than nothing. But face it, it's a video game. It WILL not bring you the fear of racing a real car on the track even with damage. What do you do after you crashed? Try again. What do you do after you crashed in real life? Go to the hospital. It's the fear that will stop you from driving to the line of limit and over aggressive. In a game you just pedal down to the max and brake as late as you can without much fear of crashing. Damage model will add a degree of simulation element but it won't stop you from doing the above.

 

Mind you I played Forza 2 over friend's place. I'm not ignoring it and I think the 3rd will be a good game. I just disagree with some of the opinions here. How hard is that?