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nightsurge said:

Then I find that very hard to believe you are getting above 20 FPS for those settings.  Download FRAPS and run it while playing.

I do not have first hand experience with your exact card, but I have experience with a wide set of other video cards and hardware very similar.  Perhaps it is just Fallout 3 is no where near as demanding as most recent games are on the GPU.  I just had an HD 4830 and it could barely handle all my games (Red Alert 3, Crysis, Far Cry 2, Fear 2, and more) on 1680x1050 and it is much better than your video card.  The rest of my system was nearly identical to yours except my CPU was a dual core Kuma overclocked to 3.6GHz.

No one is taking me up on my challenge because there is no "retail" PC that exists which can do what I say.  Anyone can go build a PC for sub $500 to do what a PS3/360 can do, but to buy one at retail like you buy a PS3/360 you will not find anything comparable for $500.

And I'm not making up facts.  I was making my claims based on similar hardware I had used and on all the benchmarks I had seen.  The one for your card and Fallout 3 showed only 29FPS at 1680x1050 with no AA/AF and dropped even lower once those were enabled.

 I am not trying to be mean or arguemntative for the sake of being a jack-ass, but it is frustrating when someone tells you that your personal experience can't happen. I will admit I changed the game to ultra high settings after I started posting here and tooled around t see if there was a frame drop. It didn't happen then, but I was doing stuff indoors. Out doors there were noticeable drops with 8XAA and 15XAF. On high (4X and 12X from memory) there were none that I noticed.

  As for fraps, well doesn't that bog your system down like a ton? At least thats how it was explained back when my old WoW guild would talk about it. That was a few years ago so systems will have evolved and mine might take it now. I will try it later and tell you what I find. I could believe it is running at or around 30, but it certainly is not dropping to 20 on the high settings (probably did on ultra for brief snippets).  If you still don't believe me after fraps you can bug Makingmusic to come by my place and verify this is the case. I am being entirely honest here. I find shio to be as obnoxious as the next guy, but I felt I had to at least try and point out some unbiased facts.

 I do have a potential explanation. Admittedly I am not entirely up to date on the cutting edge of graphics etc. I mostly build computers for personal use, with the odd one aimed as a mid range gaming PC. So please take that into account while listening to my explanations. One thing I have noticed is places like Can You Run It seem to think my video card has 1.9 gigs of ram which is quite obviously wrong. My guess is that my video card is using some of the left over ram from my main system. Othere than that I have a quad core 2.3Ghz cpu so I should be able to handle more than a few things your set-up could not.



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