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Sqrl said:
fmc83 said:
Sqrl said:
 

There is nothing hypocritical about it unless you take this insane view that they are even remotely similar...they aren't.  Not even close.  Abortion is to the pro-life advocates (and their view is what you are discussing) the intentional murder of helpless human infants without any defense or knowledge of threat whatsoever.  War is nothing like that, you are fighting other soldiers who are trained, armed, and most importantly aware of your threat.  In war soldiers can surrender and lay down arms...can a fetus do that? In war if you get injured you get treatment...in PBAs if you aren't dead when they pull you out they throw you into a can and let you starve or suffocate.  There isn't even a comparison here Highway. Not even remotely.

 

Ouch. War never is just between soldiers and soldiers. I would wonder if you could name one conflict in the last 100 years without "helpless" civilians/ children dead. Would be a interesting find

Did you think I was unaware of the realities of war? Was one step ahead of you on this one, see the highlighted word in red

I think you will find that it is illegal to intentionally kill civilians in war  and it's actually viewed quite unfavorably by people of all political idealogies....which sort of makes the point. Please note that he is having a discussion about the views of those who view abortion as murder and that this is precisely how they see it (ie intentional murder of helpless, defenseless, and threat unaware infants.  I only fully agree with them when it comes to abortions after the 21st week.  So to a certain degree I am playing devil's advocate here because I don't think their view is inconsistent at all....even if I don't fully agree with them.

 

 

I recognize, that you love debates and play the devil's advocat sometimes. Not a bad thing at all. I saw the intentional, but decided, that I won't count it in for this case. Imo it sounds to much like hipocracy, if you compare soldiers with abortion-doctors.

I follow highwaystar101 here. It's a job that has to be done, otherwise desperate women would go back to needles and stuff like that, which would let to severe injuries or their death. I would prefer if there where no abortions at all, but the world is not perfect and never will be.