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TRios_Zen said:
Munkeh111 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Munkeh111 said:
MontanaHatchet said:

I think he knows that Gran Turismo will be better than Forza, so he's bragging it up while he can. Not that I'm impressed. He's basically saying that it will be better than Need for Speed, Grid, Burnout, and...the last Forza.

But personally, I think SHiFT looked much better, and they presented it without saying this is a greatest game ever

Well I'm talking about past Need for Speeds. To me, he was bragging that Forza 3 will be better than the likes of Need for Speed Prostreet and Undercover.

I can't say that bragging that it will be better than those 2 is much to brag about

So you think that Turn 10 decided, we are going to make a game, and call it definitive "for now",  because once Gran Turismo comes out, obciously it won't be anymore? 

Sorry, I completely disagree.  Both of you may believe that Gran Turismo automatically trumps anything Forza, but I am absolutely positive that the team at Turn 10, is doing thier best to truly be the best racing game out there.  Whether they succeed or not is up in the air, but just as you say it's too early for them to say they are the "definitive" racing game, isn't it a bit too early to say that Gran Turismo has beat them already?

I think years from now, thier could be a Harvard case study on Sony's actions this generation; not because they failed miserable or went out business, but because of the amount of market share they lost, given the extreme brand loyalty they and thier exclusive IP's enjoy.

Okay. Take, for example, the declaration during the presentation that Forza 3 will have more cars and more models than any racing game released this generation. They bragged about how this is part of the game being so definitive, yet Gran Turismo 5 is almost certain to dwarf the number of cars Forza 3 has. Microsoft's whole E3 conference was about saying how they are the best, and Turn 10 shouldn't have said their game is definitive if their main competition isn't even out yet. Better than the other racing games this generation? Maybe. But GT5 could be coming out this year.