Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Isn't less illegal in that area compared to others.
You can cherry pick all you want... but in reality there is no statistical evidence that correlates with religion when it comes to crimes. Comparing different countries is a bit silly considering the many MANY different factors.
Such factors include population density (real not average), Gini Coefficent, diversity, freedom of speach, effectiveness of police force and belief in justice... etc.
My point simply was that those countries you stated do not infact have ridiculiously low crime rates. They're crime rates are fairly high.
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I'd actually argue that the confounding factors in the data you showed were so large that you can't actually claim that the crime rates in those countries are relatively high. If you can find a study that takes into account the confounding factors that I quoted in my last post I'll agree that I was wrong.
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Such factors are largely irrelvent as they don't change the actual crime rate. A bit nitpicky yes. But factually true and the best data we have to go by.
Additionally the crime rates in these countries are going up. Like I said... it's highly unlikely this is due to rising atheism... but year over year change within a population where variables change is a much more valid method.
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The factors don't change crime rates but they do strongly change the measurment of crime rates. So the data is pretty worthless because it doesn't show with any accuracy the amount of crime in the country.
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It depends really on if you believe in moral absolutism or not. If so it's pretty worthless.
If not however it has plenty of merit as what each society deems as a crime and how they report it since they are self reporting.