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Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
hunter_alien said:
Wow.. thats just wrong. But what can we expect, this world is changing way to fast and IMO in a bad dirrection. Like it or not a religion gives some discipline to a person :|

Then why on earth do Denmark, Sweden and Norway have ridiculously low crime rates and ridiculously high levels of atheism.

If anything the corellation between religion and crime would go in the other direction.

http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

 http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capita

Denmark is actually number 4. Netherlands 9. 

Of course this is reported crimes.

Several major problems with those statistics. To quote somebody who posted on that page (and did an excellent job of it in my opinion):

"Comparing international crime statistics must be done with great caution. Statistics compiled by the United Nations are based on surveys that specify that crimes be counted based on each country's legislated definition of what constitute a "crime". Some countries may include misdemeanor offences, where a fine is issued while others may only count imprisionable offences. Also, counting the crime takes place at different places in the law-enforcement process. Consequently, some countries may count every reported breach of the law, while others may only count cases that make it to court, and even then only the most serious of several charges laid. Because there is so much inconsistency in these statistics, they might also be a quality measure of the standard and efficiency of law enforcement and the criminal justice system of a country, rather than having anything to do with actual prevalence of crime."

Thats why countries like NZ are up the top when clearly NZ is not hideously crime ridden.

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

Murder is less ambigious and more obvious, though I imagine in the more violent countries sometimes unreported/uninvestigated.

Isn't less illegal in that area compared to others.

You can cherry pick all you want... but in reality there is  no statistical evidence that correlates with religion when it comes to crimes.  Comparing different countries is a bit silly considering the many MANY different factors.

Such factors include population density (real not average), Gini Coefficent, diversity, freedom of speach, effectiveness of police force and belief in justice... etc.

My point simply was that those countries you stated do not infact have ridiculiously low crime rates.  They're crime rates are fairly high outside of violent crime.