New E3 Rumor : Left 4 Dead 2

[thetonestarr]

Staude said:

ameratsu said:

Staude said:

thetonestarr said:
Thing is, it's not four hours of content. The main point of the game is earning the achievements and playing online. Every experience is drastically different due to the AI Director. You are consistently going back to the Campaign-mode only in your argument, over and over. There are more gameplay modes than that, and when you go into Survival mode, you realize just how drastically different every stage actually is. And considering survival mode is what the vast majority of gamers play, it's safe to assume that it is the main concentration of the game, where the most gameplay will reside.


Also, the word is "extra".


Lastly, I like how you assume I haven't played every single Tekken game, even though I have. I also find it rather humourous that you blindly refuse to accept that the fate of the world resting on the outcome of a fighting tournament... SIX DIFFERENT TIMES... isn't a piss-poor plot. Your fanboyism is incredible.

My fanboyism ?

 For what exacly ?

How am i biased against left 4 dead in any possible way ?

I've even said it was a very fun game especially locally.

 

I think it's you who are wearing the mythic goggles that somehow manages to not only cloud your judgement on this subject, but somehow manages to fuck up your judgement on everything i wrote. Word for word.

 

It is 4 hours of content if it takes you 4 hours to go through it once. That's just how it is. Wether you like it or not. The AI director ads variation to specific things in the game, but not enough to call it a "brand new experience" as you would say, for it is still.. the same fucking level. It's not different. Your paths might alter slightly but that's it. It's still the same maps in the same level that tells the same story. etc.

 

Hence. Thers 4 hours of content if you look at it from a, "How long will it take you to go through the content of this game over the span of the 4 campaigns."

 

You're doing it wrong if you're playing through on normal. It's too easy for anyone with FPS experience, and this is the sort of game you want to play at a difficultly level above your comfort level. Playing through all the campaigns on versus would take much more than 4 hours, and if you've only played through a campaign once you've hardly accomplished anything. I still consider versus the definitive L4D mode, but It's wierd you complain about levels like this, but still play the same Warhawk, Killzone, or Resistance maps over and over and over. There's what, 5 Warhawk maps in the base game? Yet I've clocked over a hundred hours playing 5 levels in that game! Oh noes.

You really don't see the difference ?

A killzone 2 map. For instance, in online.. Is a freely open map where you can take whatever path you want.

Left 4 dead "campaign" is scripted and does follow regular linear campaign standards. In other words, it's like if i were replayed the killzone 2 campaign multiple times.. (with friends) .. which i probably wouldn't do either.. Some segments like the part with the lightning gun sure. But not the whole thing.

Another thing is that left for dead has the same weapons in all maps. It's not that big of a problem but it could use more variation.

So we have huge open enviroments with 100 paths where you can go where you want, have 7 classes etc (ok i won't bring all the gameplay into this) but open enviroments with plenty of different paths each time, vs linear enviroments with mostly the same path .. with some slight alterations.

You can't really compare it. Co-op stuff like that is nice, but it gets boring if there isn't a lot of variation. Valve tried to do that with the AI director, but i still think, the game needs more maps for me to buy it. How is that a problem for you ? You don't want more maps ? I mean comon lol this is rediculous.

Also I only played warhawk for half an hour. .. Not my game it turned out.

 

Anyhow like i said. I went through it on hard, and i didn't only go through each campaign once. But about 3 - 4 times. I've only played it a little offline, most of the time i played the game online with mates, and at one oaccation on lan.

Player both co-op and versus. Multiple times...

 

 

First off, I was referring to your fanboyism in relation to Tekken, if you'd kindly pay attention to the context of my post. =p

Secondly, so since Killzone 2 gives you a "free" "open map", that automatically makes every map in other FPS games that aren't "free" and "open" non-levels? Every stage in Half-Life 2, every stage in Goldeneye 007, many stages in all three Halo games... They're ALL constructed in the same general manner. You're going to tell me that NONE of those games have legitimate "levels"?

 

It's a matter of personal preference. You're trying to tell us things are completely objective here and they're not - it's entirely subjective. You may not like the level design, but that doesn't mean they're not well-done or genius. The entire point of Left 4 Dead is that you're four ordinary people that have managed to survive a zombie apocalypse, and you're trying to make do with the few resources that've been left behind to make it to safe zones where OTHER survivors are. NATURALLY it'll be linear, because the whole premise is simple - kill or be killed, and make it to safety! Period! And the weaponry will obviously be the same, too, because they're left behind by the military and everyday citizens. The everyday citizen doesn't own this, that, and the other combat rifle. The everyday soldier uses only two or three main weapons. You're not GOING to find a huge amount of variety because it's just not realistic.