Why I Hate DLC and patches?

[Words Of Wisdom]

The_vagabond7 said:

Words Of Wisdom said:

The_vagabond7 said:

Do some companies take advantage? Absolutely. But to assume that all our games now would've just shipped with all the DLC you find on the PSN is ignorant. Those are the things that normally got cut from games, not included in them for free.

Which is why I have never made that assumption.  It's ironic that in calling me ignorant over an assumption that you're the one making an assumption.  

Unless you work for the company yourself, chances are that you'll never know if DLC on a game was withheld to become DLC or is genuinely content made available only after release.  Even in the latter you have to wonder whether or not they should have waited to release the game until all the content was finished. 

That last part is why I don't like so-called "director's cut" games.  At worst, it's gouging the real fans of the game by making them rebuy it.  At best, it's shoddy development as you're releasing the complete product you should have released in the first place.  At least games like Gran Turismo are honest about it when they tell you more or less upfront that the Prologue is a small sample of the full game.

So when You said

"It's not about the content.

It's about the fact that it was withheld from the original game/purchase.  Do you not understand or do you not want to understand?"

 

Or

"So, rather than pay $60 for the full game and all its content, you would rather pay $90+ for the game and large portion of its content as DLC?"

 

You didn't actually mean that the content would've been part of the game for free if there wasn't a possibility of DLC? You didn't mean that it was removed so it could be charged for later?

Look, I just wrote a whole post saying that short of being in the game company, gamers have no way of knowing what DLC is good and bad (except microtransactions which are always evil) so what part of that confused you?

So far your first post misinterpreted me as saying "all our games now would've just shipped with all the DLC you find on the PSN" which I sure as hell never said and now you're blantantly misinterpreting me again?  Seriously vagabond, what is your problem here?  Exactly how many times do I need to clarify this before you can quote a post of mine without reading something into it that isn't there?

1)  Content available at the game's release but purposefully excluded just to charge buyers more later as DLC is bad.

2)  Games being rushed out the door before being finished resulting in content that would have been in the game becoming DLC is bad.

3)  Games that force you to pay additional money to unlock content that already exists in the game media you purchased is bad.

Is this clear enough for you?