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Squilliam on 25 May 2009
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akuseru said:
nightsurge said:
Oh and one more thing, I would argue that decreasing the price of the 360, especially in markets where it already exceeds the PS3 by a good margin, will increase the perceived value, not decrease it. The average Joe will go to a store, see 2 consoles with nearly all the same games. Both consoles he finds out can play HD and one is 50% cheaper. To that person the perceived value is going to be greater on the 360 because it can do nearly every function for half the price! Plus add on the unique features of Netflix streaming, Live with its unique features, achievements, and the greater chance that you will be able to play with your friends or that more of your friends will own this console, and the value goes up even more.

Sure you can argue that "they will need to pay for LIVE and to buy a wireless adapter so it isn't cheaper", but I would then counter argue that since only about 18 million Xbox 360 users even use the Silver/Gold level service, it is obviously not an absolute selling point (12 million 360 users not online). Also, to add on to that, wireless is not necessary, and most situations will not require it. But, in the event the average Joe pays for Xbox Live for full price, he still will get the occasional free XBLA game, and the chance to win prizes and points from all the MS promotions or Xbox Live PrimeTime.

seriously. I rarely post around these forums, but I read a lot, and wow! Let me just counter your stupidity: "Plus, add on the unique features of PS Video Store, Blu Ray Drive (for the FUTURE my friend, or do you expect DVD to hold forever??), Wireless (even though you don't use it, around 20 people I know with PS3 use it), FREE online (with basically the same features for the average consumer), More storage, cheaper prices on extra storage, no need to buy batteries for controllers, bluetooth (does 360 have bluetooth, sorry if I'm wrong), trophies (just as a counter to achievements. most GAMERS I know play games because the games are good, and does not really care about this unimportant stuff), possibilities to have lossless sound on games, HDMI 1.3, Play TV (nice feature you can add for the same price as a WiFi adaptor on the 360, or whatever)."

edit: oh and add to that: nearly (i say nearly) scratch free discs (no disc scratch problems, even if you treat your discs as garbage), minimum FAILURE rate in comparison to competition (HD consoles), play the amazing catalouge of PS1 titles. and for people with launch systems; able to play the AMAZING catalouge of PS2 titles and have all sorts of card readers (which I have used many times and see as a good feature)...

You see, 360 can't do the same things for half the price, it can't even play movies made on the next up and coming mainstream disc based movie format. And even though you may say that those extra features on the PS3 are not needed... well, for me LIVE is not needed, for me NETFLIX is not needed (because we have the PS Video Store with better content really), for me ACHIEVEMENTS are not needed... The PS3 is more of a machine than the 360 could ever be. Now go back playing through LIVE on your precious 360... Only thing the 360 has on the PS3 is a cheaper price and a year advatage in the market. NOTHING more than that... (and some games like Halo 3 (sad..), Gears (sad..) and Mass Effect (i'd like to play) + Fable (lol) and Dead Rising (i'd like to play) and I can add Crackdown.. Oh! and Alan Wake... I don't bother listing RPGs, because they don't sell on 360 and obviously they get PS3 ports down the line with more content..)

 

/rant out

You know, theres no point to all this. The market determines which features are valuable and the price determins how many systems are sold. Arguing about which feature or quality you like the best doesn't really add anything or change anything.



Tease.