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akuma587 said:
Kasz216 said:

I like Rachael Maddow. Her and Pat Buchanon were the best team of analsyts out there... the only ones admitting when their guys succeeded and failed.

Also.... left wing liberals have been ripping apart Obama for at least 2 weeks already.

NPR has been taking shots at him daily.


Afganistan bombings. trying to install Afghanistan puppet government , being in the pocket of big insurance and just making things easier on them... etc.

 

The honeymoon has really worn off the only problem is there is no alternative for anyone really since no one is gutsy enough to vote 3rd party.


I don't know why the Neo-cons hate the guy so much though.   Obama so far looks like Richard Nixon.  Well actually Nixon succeeded in pulling out of the war he promised to pull out of.

Its actually usually a good sign when you are pissing off both ends of the spectrum.  That means you are somewhere in the middle, where the average American is.

And a lot of you are missing a fundamental distinction between Bush, Nixon and Obama.  Bush and Nixon went behind the backs of the other branches of government.  Obama is not.  People just like to throw around the word 'unconstitutional' like it is going out of style.  This word is used in all kinds of instances where it doesn't even apply (including by many people in this thread). 

Let's just make this clear.  The Constitution allows for the suspension of habeas corpus rights under limited circumstances.  You just have to do it in the right way at the right time.  And as for your earlier post, kasz, yes, Congress is the one who does have to authorize the suspension of these rights, but this stuff doesn't just happen overnight.  And this was certainly not the only thing Obama had to address when he got into office.

Furthermore, it will be a cold day in hell before liberals abandon Obama.  Who are they going to vote for, Ralph Nader?  Obama is about the most liberal President in office for the past 50 years.

He's not though.   He's pissing off both sides by having extreme views on both ends.

Increased socialism (that benefits corporations) with Neo-conservative defense ideas.

So far he's takin the worst parts of bush and added on to it with stuff republicans don't like.