| I_Heart_Nintendo said: @ Hunter_Alien: Go Away @ Akvod Gay people have been made to hate themselves and everything they do by conservative assholes for centuries, even though it does no harm to anyone, and is a natural inclination. I think its OK for people these days to still be happy that they can feel free to express themselves. Gay teens still have a high rate of suicide due to bullying and family issues, and It is my DREAM for those kids to feel PROUD of who they are, rather than keeping any feelings they have bottled up inside (and the jumping of a bridge, because their mom told them they are going to burn in some sort of hellish afterlife) Excuse me anyone who begrudges gay people for expressing themselves, but you can go fark off. |
I still don't understand. How does the outside circumstances, make your sexual orientation something to take pride in? I understand that you guys were forced to feel shame, but it doesn't change homosexuality at all. All homosexuality is, is being sexually attracted to someone of the same sex. What's to be proud/shameful of that? Nothing.
And also you can go fuck off (we're adults/young adults now, no need to use words like fark. Replacing the actual word doesn't actually do anything, because I know you meant to say "fuck". That's another rant though...). I made it clear that I wasn't against homosexuals saying they're gay out in public (or more specifically, in the military). I just find it illogical to do so in the first place.
On a side note, I also find it illogical to be proud of a ethnicity and nationality. People who do celebrate these two, usually say "These people from my ethnicity/nationality, did this cool thing". And whoever did that cool thing, should be proud of themselves. But what the fuck have the other people done? Nothing. If I grew a mustache, does that mean I can take credit for what other mustached people did? No.
I find it... not necessarily paradoxical, hypocritical, etc... but there's something weird in saying there's nothing shameful about your ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc, but that there's something proud... There's nothing positive, nor negative about these things. Ethnicity is just a few common physical features, and traits. There's nothing proud about having big/small eyes, white/black skin. Sexual orientation is whether or not if you want to fuck people of the opposite, same, or both sexes.
What's there to be proud of wanting to stick your penis in a guy, as opposed to a girl (and the same thing for lesbians)? Nothing, just as there's nothing to be proud of if you're straight.
It's right to spread awareness of the sufferings and opression homosexuals had to go through, and get these people to not be ashamed anymore. But just like the Black Power movement (which I hate... I don't consider myself Japanese, even if I am ethnicly, because I was born here, socialized here [US], and have a culture and heritage here. Heritage isn't something you can just go and get, nor tied to your genes.), it's stupid for then everyone to be all emotionally riled up and be proud of it. That's the dangerous thing that leads to nationalism, and SUPERIORITY COMPLEX (we're the perfect race, and so we should eliminate sub-humans... sound familiar?... and how did it start?... after a period of depression and inferiority complex).
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Conclusion: Be out, be happy, and hell go shout out that you're gay. Don't be proud of the fact that you're gay, and don't start identifying with and grouping with people due to their sexuality (only hang out with gay people). That's self segregation, and only leads to prolong the divide between subcultures. It's also illogical, to adopt certain styles of clothing, philosophies, etc over being a certain sexual orientation.
I am an Atheist, but I have absolutely nothing in common with other Atheists. Some of them might be anti-theists, some of them might Marxists, some of them might be capitalists, etc. I don't take pride in my lack of belief, but rather the things I did in life... which are little, hence why I'm not that proud of myself, and strive to make something for myself, rather than being complacent and smiling over something that's not worthy of pride.
