To no surprise, only Sonyfans are posting in this thread. While some of the rebuttles are OK (they are weak in that they don't challange the idea dirrectly, instead, dancing around it) a lot of misinformed. But before that.....
BladeOfGod: You know that [part about "He lost all credibility. That was aimed at you. All you said was "ad homenin," because I do not follow your beleif. At least I backed mine up. Your "post" hardly counts as one.
Skeeuk: "article is written by an absolute stupid idiot" Oww, you got me. Slain by your words of truth. How am I a stupid idiot? This, coming from the guy who said "stupid idiot" despite they have the same connetation.
Arius Dion: "Raf: It is the content that sold the Wii, motion controls are meaningless if it doesn't have the software that utilizes it. Also, the Price excuse is pretty moot at this point. Price didn't save the Cube from 3rd place." YES, thank you. Someone who gets it. We have become accoustome to poor analysis. People look at price above all else, but we know price is not a major factor (the cube was less then the PS2 and still flopped. The 360 is less than the Wii and it can't keep up). There isn't much evidence for the strength of price.
snyperdud: "I think a 10 year lifespan is pretty reasonable given the length this generation is supposed to have.
The PS3 isn't going anywhere any time soon, regardless of what people hope. Sony has made a huge investment into it and I doubt they will just turn their back on it. Yes, they have lost a ton of money so far. But, there is a lot of time left in the game and all the more reason to try and earn their money back (mostly likely through software and hardware adjustments).
The PS3 will be fine, it isn't selling the best right now, but give it time."
The problem with your claim is you first need to prove that this generation will be longer, or at least give some reason to why. You made the claim based on the assumption, but if the assumption is false, then your entirely wrong. Additionally, Sony has to make money. Even if they invested alot, it is not worth keeping if it can turn a profit. It's a lot trickier then it seems. Abandoning razors and blades, then they could make more profit from a new console. If the PS3 becomes stagnant, they will have to retaliate with a new console to stay competitive. It's not as easy as it looks.
richardhutnik: "2. The PS3 hasn't had a price cut." This one is a huge misconception I hear to often. You cut prices for a struggling or dying units. The purposes are many, such as trying to prolong it's life, trying to increase demand, or to liquidate it and use the money to recuperate losses. Healthy systems don't get price cuts. The Wii has yet to have a price cut. The PS2 took a while to have it's price cut. Succeeding consoles keep their prices; failing consoles get it cut. This is what I was talking about with the Gamecube.
two, the PS3 Slim looks like its real, or people wouldnt have issued cease and desist orders for it, that will further drop production costs, but it will retain the same price point if the PS2 slim is a guide, meaning profit on every unit sold.
To consumers, there is no value to it. They will know it's a PS3 that is slim (that's it's name), but they wont care. Smaller does not equal better in the consumer's mind. Nintendo was able to create a mass market because they know what consumers wanted. The games on the PS3 appeal to the core users. There is a very limited number of them. The slim wont save the system.
third, the PS3 hasnt lost momentum, it would have had to have had momentum to begin with to lose it, The 360 is losing steam, the Wii is losing steam, the PS3 is still ploding along at the same pace.
This is a good point, but it helps my argument, not yours. What you are saying is the PS3 has always been doing bad. Where the Wii and 360 could lose steam, the PS3 can't because it never had steam. The point I made is that the PS3 is stagnant. Additionally, the Wii normally has more growth or less drops. I think the only time the PS3 had more growth was in 2007, where the Wii grew 449% and the PS3 grew 519%. Of course, the Wii probably showed more growth. Also, if you look at the compair consoles, you'll see the PS3 and 360 are declining. The Wii has a sharp drop only becuase US data is not in. The graph also shows Sony having a hard time keeping up. During big selling seasons, the Wii has a huge spike with a second hump into the new year, the 360 has a small hump, and the PS3 has a really tiny one. The Wii has been software deprived for a while, but is still keeping pace. the other two are not. This shows how much trouble the system is having keeping up.
3. Blu-ray. Do I need to say more than those 2 words? Once PS3 is down to $300 that will be a great deal; you get an high quality game system and a high quality Blu-ray player for one reasonable price.
Consumers don't want Blu Ray.
There are diminishing returns with production values. For some reason in entertainment, if the production values are too high, the customers react unfavorably. This phenomenon can be seen in movies and music as well. I personally believe that if the customer senses too much production value, he or she will sense the product attempting to be more style over substance. The customer will then feel ‘cheated’.
Although disruptive products initially can only be used in small markets, they eventually become competitive in mainstream markets. This is because technological progress exceeds the rate of improvement that mainstream customers want or can absorb. As a result, the products that are currently in the mainstream eventually will overshoot the performance that mainstream markets demand,.......EXAMPLE: Microsoft and Sony, relying on sustaining technologies, overshot the market. The technological progress for graphics exceeded the market’s demand. With consoles costing from $400 to $600 and relying on features (better graphics and horsepower) the market didn’t really want, this opened the way for a disruptor.
Why would consumers trade in their DVD player for Blu Ray? If your answer is "It's prettier" your wrong. The idea is that once something becomes "good enough," then any additions will be unfavorable to consumers. At that point, they don't feel the upgrade is worth their money. So, instead of upgrading to Blu-Ray, they'll save their money and buy and watch DVDs. They dont see the changes or the need Blu-Ray brings. Blu-Ray is not going to sell the PS3.
And my favorite "third parties are not diffecting"
The answer: they are starting to. It's evident that more third party software, and better third party software is coming to the Wii. More and more developers are hoping onto Wiiware. The idea is this: thie Wii is selling the best. So, developers take note and developer for that system, ignoring the other. Third parties this time were reluctant of the Wii, but now they can't ignore it any longer. More and more are announcing Wii projects. Like the DS, developers will focus on namely the Wii. It's not happening as fast since the Wii has not taken off as fast as the DS did. It will happen soon.
