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mrstickball said:
txrattlesnake said:
Username2324 said:
Here's an idea: Why don't the poor get off their asses and stop crying "Gimme! Gimme!" and do some good ol' hard honest work?

The only thing stopping anyone from becoming a millionaire is themselves. I don't care if you were born poor, and raised poor, nothing is stopping you from succeeding in life.

 I'll tell ya, the guy getting up driving an hour to work, having to be there 12 to 15 hours each day, unloading trucks, having to memorize all 800 items on those trucks, then going and cleaning the toliets, scrubbing the patios and sidewalks, and staircases, making sure that the grounds are spotless, then having to drive another hour back home at the end of their twelve hour day (that they have to work to stay in good standing with the bosses) five days a week with only two holidays off throughout the year for $8.00 an hour is doing much more work than some cpa with his feet up on a desk all afternoon.

Said worker is working 60hrs a week, and earning 20hrs of overtime. That's decent.

Unlike said worker, the CPA invested time and money into becoming a CPA. There's a 99% chance that the person in your story is untrained in his field, and never invested time, nor money, into a better education.

Doing 'much more work' does not always equate to 'getting much more money' - Why? Some skills are technical, and require a larger investment of time and money. Because of this, they usually have a much higher payout.

But if you want to pine about some generic worker - The generic worker could easily go out, and learn a basic technical skill like becoming a plumber or electrician, and earn $25-50/hr within a short period of time. Of course, due to poor decisions, this gentleman may not be able to do this. Choices are usually made that result in poor results.

Here's an example (real life example):

I have 2 friends that were barely making ends meet, driving up credit card debt, and not getting by. Both had to make the choice of doing radical things to work off their debt, or face tougher issues.

One of the friends started to put in extra hours at work, pay off debts, and learn a new, more valuable technical skill in the world of Affiliate marketing. In 6 months, he's gone from barely making ends meet to earning about $30,000 a month.

The other friend did absolutely nothing, despite warning, and has now lost everything he owns. He is probably going to be forced into bankruptcy, and is now living in my house, sleeping on my couch, because he can afford no better.

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Which friend saught a better path? Which one didn't? I can assure you that in 99% of people's lives, good jobs don't come the way of the silver spoon, but through intelligence and comittment. I don't remember Bill Gates' family giving him the reigns of Microsoft saying 'here, run this for us'.

Even in my own life, I've sought to be the best, most competent worker for not having gone to college. It's worked out pretty well for me. I own 3 buildings with a total value of $400,000. Have a decent 5-figure in the bank account, am saving lots of money, and have a fantastic job. If I was ever cut from my job, I have the technical skills needed to find a new one in a matter of days, and have multiple fallback incomes. That didn't come by the way of a silver spoon, either. I was born into poverty, and had to make tough choices. I worked just as long and hard as the guy in your story - putting in 60-65hrs a week at a dead end job for $8.00 an hour (medical transportation officer). It was tough, but I knew I was doing that job just to make some money to invest it, and better my life.

Everyone has choices, what choices did the man in your story make? I'd really like to know. There's usually a logic and reason behind poverty. I have yet to meet a man I felt truly bad for, because of their situation. And if I did meet such a man, I would instantly hand them a check for $5,000 and look into providing food and shelter for them.

 

I couldn't have said it any better than this, kudos to you my friend.