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fmc83 said:
appolose said:
 

I never said the appearence of new species was bad in and of itself, it's the process of getting there (amongst other things) that would make it suck (tons of death, lots of pain).  Also, the Bible says what God created was very good, not that he created every good thing.  And I blame new illnesses on the Fall (not the season).

Just as a heads up to anyone: I do not wish to argue about these points I brought up. I just intended to give my positions.

 

 

 

Wait. You bring up points which you then don't want to argue??? WTF?! As this thread is dedicated by the opening post to argue, my position is, that you then please just keep them for yourself.

 

The bolded phrase makes no sense to me. I can't recall any phase except for some first world countries in the last 60 years, where this wasn't the case for humankind. It's not that life sucks, it's more that reality in nature is cruel.

 

Well if you blame them on the Fall you still blame God, cause he then must have brought them, as he is omnipotent.

 

 

Khuutra asked me to explain why I thought the context of Genesis showed that it was not metaphorical, so I did.  I don't want to getinto a debate about it, though.

"The bolded phrase makes no sense to me. I can't recall any phase except for some first world countries in the last 60 years, where this wasn't the case for humankind. It's not that life sucks, it's more that reality in nature is cruel".

The Creatoin account implies this was not the case during the beginning.  If it were, then it wouldn't be "very good".

As for the fall, I don't blame God for it because of a free-will thing that happened.

 



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