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Captendo said:

I have always wondered how a Bayern fan had felt that moment. Now I guess I know it!
Oh, and I think I do know that to suffer means :P
I mean, I'll be 17 this November, yet I saw:

-Juventus - Manchester 2-3
-Juventus - Milan
-Juventus in the Serie B

And this season is easily the worst.

But yeah, I even saw the "5 Maggio": Udinese - Juventus 0-2 and Lazio - Inter 4-2. So awesome!

Off course you do. I was just screwing around

 

You asked me before, how I saw the manipulation scandal in Italy. My italian is based solely on my average latin and french knowledge, so I just get half of the sense, if I read an italian newspaper. But from what I understood and read in German about it, my standpoint was, that this whole thing kind of went the Italian way. First you tell three teams will have to go down, then two and at the end, I was surprised, that at least Juve went down for that. Moggi, as an official man of the club should have know better. It's hard for the tifosi, but in the end it's a small piece of justice. That he didn't get sued was more to some laws Berlusconi-styles than anything else. Actually a bigger shame was what actually happened with Milan - they even played CL the next year (if I remember that right).

We had one case of manipulation in Germany in the last years and the referee actually went to jail after that. Even after that there were lots of improvements by laws and the Liga and it shouldn't happen that easily again. Do you think, that to manipulate a game got harder in Italy since the Moggi-affair?