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Microsoft - 360 Falcon RRoD? - View Post

twesterm on 04 October 2007
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LordTheNightKnight said:
twesterm said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
twesterm said:
IllegalPaladin said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Next firmware update, there should be a screen, during the bootup, reminding gamers that 4 rings just mean to check the plugs, that is if firmware can't correct the ring setup anyway.

That confusion has led to a lot of perfectly working systems sent for repairs (meaning the 30% return rate is at the very least inflated), causing real repairs to be backed up.

I don't completely believe that since you're supposed to call their tech support if you suspect you have a problem. Maybe some people got it wrong, but I'm sure one of the top things to check for on the tech support checklist is the warning the red rings are giving you.


Yeah, one of the first questions they ask you is if you have red lights and how many. I personally hope they don't give you an extra screen at startup telling you this since 1) you have to go through tech support to send in your 360 and they ask you and 2) it would be as annoying as the Wii startup screen.


Not everyone calls tech support, and the Microsoft repair centers did state the consoles were sent in because of the four rings, when they worked fine.

Plus the screen wouldn't be anything more than Nintendo's startup messages seizure warnings. You would just have to press A again to continue.


  1. In order to send your console in you have to talk to somebody and that somebody is going to make sure there actually is a problem. You can't just put your 360 in a box, write TO: MICROSOFT, ATN: RROD!!!!!, you have to go through a few hoops first.
  2. I know the screen would be exactly like the Wii's, that's why I said that it would be like the Wii's opening screen. What you missed was that I and just about everyone else hates having to go through that extra step to turn your console on. I'm sure people that have universal remotes turn their 360 that don't have the A button mapped (say to watch DVD's) will hate it even more.

1. How does that change the fact that some got in there anyway?

2. Maybe not the A button, but any button, even on the remotes. And who cares if you hate it? If it teaches people to tell the rings apart, then it does its job.


 It doesn't change the fact that some will always get in there.  Like I said, there will always be the people that just plain lie, don't bother to look other than seeing red, or just plain over react that their 360 does what everyone else's did.  And the screen wouldn't teach people anything because people don't read it. 

Why do you think that if a tech support person specifically asking how many red lights do you see won't stop the misdiagnosed 360's that a screen that nobody reads will?  Believe me, all that extra screen will do is just aggravate people.