nordlead said:
HappySqurriel said:
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• The Invasion and Occupation of Iraq: it is the most religious Americans that have been most in favor of the war, while it is the least religious Americans who have been the least supportive.
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Regardless of whether you support the wars in Iraq and/or Afghanistan, you have to agree that if these countries are stabilized and a capitalistic democracy can be formed that receives investment from outside of these countries you will have improved the lives of the citizens of these countries far beyond the capabilities of what humanitarian aid can.
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• Women's equality and women's rights: it is the most religious Americans who are least supportive of women's rights and equality, while secular folk are the most supportive.
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Rather than defining this as "Women's equality and Women's Rights" which is amazingly misleading, why not be honest and just say that religious people are "Anti-Abortion"?
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• Full civil rights and equality for homosexuals: again, the correlation is quite strong, with religious people being less supportive of gay rights and scoring higher on measures of homophobia than atheists and secular folk.
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Once again, a level of dishonesty because there is no evidence to suggest that any group is against "Civil Rights" on the whole for homosexual people this ends up being that religious people are against "Gay Marriage" ...
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• The death penalty: the more religious are the most in favor, while the less or non-religious are the most opposed.
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This is true ...
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• General treatment of Prisoners: Strong God-believers and regular church-goers generally favor harsher treatment and strict retribution, while atheist tend to favor more humane treatment and rehabilitation.
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This is not necessarily true ...
A lot of "Punishments" that people would consider "Inhumane" like performing physical labour that are often proposed by the religious right are often prefered treatments of prisoners.
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• Doctor-assisted suicide: the religious tend to oppose, the secular tend to support.
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Once again a true statement ...
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• Stem cell research: ditto.
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For the most part, religious people aren't against stem cell research, they're against embryonic stem cell research ...
In general, this artical is written in a way to try to make religious people look as bad as possible by taking one or two disagreements (or the views of a tiny minority of people) and generalize them ... Its really not that hard to understand someone elses viewpoint regardless of whether you agree with it or not.
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I'm glad there are a few posters on this forum who can see through the garbage rather than just take an article and bash on religion.
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Bash religion? Are you kidding? There was plenty of bashing of athiests last week when that Ricky Gervais athiest thread was posted.
ot, its the generalisations that are the problem. Outside america, these generalisations seem fairly representative of the majority. Maybe figure heads in western Christianity should be reconsidered just as Islamic figures should be.
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