arsenicazure said:
Noobie said:
arsenicazure said:
Here is prolly why the PS3 wont last as long as the PS2:
Motion tech: I know most of us HD owners loathe it, but if used correctly it can be a lot of fun. Its not the ideal method of input for a lot of things.. say fighting games but it can be helpful in FPS, RTS etc. With rumors of m$ constantly putting out tech.. waggle, 3D cameras etc, its a no brainer that motion tech is going to be just as important as the standard gamepad in future consoles. The ps3 is pseudo motion tech compatible so if 3 yrs from now all consoles go motiontech PS3 will be left kinda dry(so will the 360)
Bluray- It was innovative, and a brave effort by SONY- but look around and you see that Bluray hasnt seeped into the home yet. Bluray ROMS or even Blyray R/RW drives are scarce in PC's and all games on the PC come on DVD9, heck even apple isnt biting the Bluray bullet for macs yet. It is the defacto HD movie format, but with cheaper memory(32nm coming this year) and with reasonably priced 16-32-64 GB (Vs bluray 25/50/100)flash drives available by the end of the year, digital downloads are going to look a lot more compelling.
Price- Sure there is room for cuts, I mean there has to be at a $400 pricetag.. the only problem being the hardware is too darn complex to allow it, add in the recession and sony would rather sell 110kunits/week/ww at a loss of say $20-40 than 160kunits/w/ww at a $80-90 loss.
Lack of success in america- well they have more money than all the other regions and Americas sells the most software. You cant be having an abysmal rate of 17% market share in the biggest video gaming region in the world.
Xbox720- IT will happen, and it should in another 2.5-3yrs. Given what M$ has learned they will aim for the $299-399 price range this time. PS3 wont look so pretty with a $200(half the current price) pricetag if m$ is going to pull the $299 gun with its next console which should be at any rate atleast 2-5 times as powerful as the PS3.
Cost- the ps3 is costing SONY by the day and with the recession, wii and retaliation by m$ it looks like sony have caught themselves in a perfect storm.
The PS2 was a monster, it devoured the DC and never ever stopped selling like hotcakes. It had FF as an exclusive, GT:SA was a huge hit and it had all the RPG's one would ever need. It also had DVD.. the defacto standard for PC/movies/media. It also was one of the first to launch(barring the DC ofcourse) and had a huge headstart.
The ps3 is an albatross around SONY's neck for the moment- and unless they cut costs and pass it onto the consumer or make blu ray cheap and viable(drives, movies or blank media).. the PS3 will never outsell the 360, let alone outlive the PS2. |
1. Sony launched dual shock after sixaxis so i don't think it will be much hard for them to add a motion controller if they do get the tech right. After all controller is an external part and i don't think it will require anything inside big black PS3 box..??
2. Sony has already PSN and delivering quite a few games on it. There is no limit on the game size either.? So you are saying that they will just launch a new console to take advantage of digital download.? I can see they can take it right now.
Moreoever not everyone likes to download games. So if they go Download Only it can backfire too.. and remember PS3 is not sold in america and EU.. many places in the world still have a lousy internet speed including the BRIC countries. So they will need sometime to catch up to the speed of the rest of the world and removing the easier way of distribution is going to cause another problem.
3. But the hardware is becoming cheap and with every one passing day they are reducing the cost.. Thats the beauty of technology. So now when the PS3 is becoming cheaper they will launch a new technology.? This sound a little stupid to me.
4. I think there are already many threads showing the PS3 is selling equal percentage of software to hardware in American as is XBOX.. or u can start a new thread and show how PS3 ratio is worst than XBOX360..
And again once the PS3 becomes cheaper more and more people will buy it and more software will be sold.
5. Is launching a more powerful console the answer to the problems.? and i think this time even MS is not going to launch a console without fully testing it.. They have spent a lot on repairs...
6. Thats the same.? how is launching the new console going to reduce the cost... There is a concept economies of scale and if Sony launch a whole new console it will have defect rate and more costly tech and it will also need time to reduce in price..
So two wrongs are not going to make a Right.
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1. you have to OPTIMISE games for motion tech, you cant just release a controller and go.. here you go.. play all the games that were unoptimised for this technology with this whole new controller! so that makes all the previous software library on the console INCOMPATIBLE with the new controllers.
2. You know what, fuck digital downloads... The way memory is getting cheaper i wont be surprised if console makers move back to carts, hell you can find 8GB chips for under $10. Heck thats AS cheap as a blu ray disc.And most(99%) games would FIT on a 8GB flash chip. Now factor in that 32nm tech is gonna hit memory- so its going to get even more cheaper and roomier.
3. I never said SONY launching a new console would be cheaper- I said the current console is so expensive to make and so complicated by the time they get the price down to mass market levels($200), M$ would be ready to launch the 720 or nearing it, and if m$ are smart as they have proven they are- they would price their BASIC SKU at the 259-299 price range. Now what would consumers buy- a 5 yrs old PS3 or a shiny new xbox720
4.The ps3 sells certain titles better than the xbox yes but on the whole xbox still has the edge.. and its common sense why.. coz they spend LESSER on their console, ergo they have more money to spend on software.
The ps3 is too darn complicated, the yen is too darn strong and the economy is too darn shit. Too darn bad. The ps3 will NOT outlive the PS2. better luck next time.
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1. Yes even if they launch new console they will have to all these steps plus if we apply your logic all PS1, PS2 and PS3 games will be INCOMPATIBLE..?
so isn't it going to be a better solution to keep this controller and make the motion tech controller optional or add motion tech controller with the games requiring motion tech controller. just like Guitar hero games come bundled.
2. First decide wot u want, digital download or games on memory stick. Just remember Blu-Ray the cost difference of Blu-Ray or Memory Stick are going to be negligible.. so why even talk abt.. i m sure single disc of Blu-Ray will cost less than a dollar within couple of yrs..
3. launching a new console is not going to solve the problem for anyone. If PS3 can run games available of XBOX 720 in the high Def with 30fps than it will be a better option for many ppl. When anyone is buying a console, its all about games.. isn;t it.? so point is either they do radically something different like virtual reality games for which they require lot of processing power or i don't see a need for new console too soon.
4. Does it make a sense.? the answer is PS3 still have to go a long way in American market and it can't reach that market until or unless its price is not reduced.. As you can see from many threads here that Sony is producing more games for PS3 with every passing yr and also third parties are putting equal title on PS3. so i don't see Sony at a disadvantage.
