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Slimebeast said:
EaglesEye379 said:
@Slimebeast

Its not impossible at all and you need to catch up with the times. If you still dont believe any of us, hit the link to the annual report and go read yourself.

No, its not $500 per 360 obviously, it includes software, accessories, Xbox Live, and as much as Games for Windows suck, they still make money. If I remember correctly, there was a good report recently that Xbox Live alone is over $1bn per year.

To give more perspective, the total 9-month revenue of all MS combined is $45bn (so $5bn is not hard to believe at all). This quarter for 3 months, the total MS revenue is $13.6bn (of which $1.5bn is EDD and if 77% holds again, total 360/PC is $1.1bn). And anyway, these are calculated mathematically or published numbers.

Are you doubting these numbers because you are comparing it to Sony? Well you cant really do that because that was so long ago and the game industry is very different now.

I could say many things but let me say just this:

If it was a common knowledge that u could see in MS financial reports how big % share of the EDD revenue consists of gaming revenue, don't you think we would have heard that earlier? MS gaming/Xbox revenue has always been the big mystery, because it's been hidden in EDD. This is the first time I hear someone claim that they know how big is the revenue from MS gaming. And why is it the first time? Because it's a misunderstanding of the '$50 million is 1%' number. You have never been able to derive the gaming revenue in thse reports before, and you think we all of a sudden can, and this guy (OP) found it out?

No no.

 

 

the reason microsoft doesn't release xbox sales figures in depth is they are doing quite a bit of other things with their EDD that aren't working all that well and they are trying to hide it.  Based on these numbers, which makes a lot of sense, you can get an aproximation of what kind of revenue the gaming portion makes.  Obviously, we don't have a complete breakdown of what exactly all the costs are, for all we know the R &D and the costs of revenue could be largely due to the gaming aspect, I doubt it, but it could be. 

Your math seems to have more holes in it than the o.p. though.  For example, I work at best buy and I know the exact cost of what best buy pays for each model of xbox.  the arcade is 188, pro is 286, and elite is 379.  That is what best buy pays for those systems, so when you are times 10 mil by 150, what math are you trying to prove?  You also don't take into acount pc gaming at all, which yes, microsoft publishes pc games.  You can still go to any store that sells pc games and buy flight simulator, age of empires, halo, gears of war, etc.