Bitmap Frogs said:
TheRealMafoo said:
| Bitmap Frogs said:
Oh gawd.
Since when has jail time stopped people from doing some things? Heck, not even death penalty dissuades people from commiting murder. If you think jail time will persuade people to experience a huge hit on their numbers as they have to hire citizens instead of inmigrants you are delluded.
By the way, minors can get all the alcohol they want. Despite the fines and jail penalties.
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That's different. Crime is usually one of morality, and jail does not change ones morals. This is business. Most people who hire illegals, do so to save money. If they thought they would have to pay there HR rep while he/she was in jail, and figure out how to conduct business without them, suddenly the cost benefit ration would not look so good.
That said, I am against jail time. The laws we have in place are good enough. We just need to enforce them. Check out how many companies in California have been punished for hiring illegals. You will be shocked to see how low that number is.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron
Are you ready to argue whitecollar crime does not exist? Because frankly, implying "business" is crime-free is quite the courageous statement. Business involves morals as well and plenty people have ignored both morals and laws in order to pursue bigger profits.
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How in the hell did you get out of my post that I think businesses are crime free? I merely stated that the economic impact of jailing an employee could change the opinion of business to use cheeper labor.
The only reason businesses higher illegal aliens is for the economic advantages. Remove those advantages, and they will stop taking the risk for no gain.