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Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Rath said:

Point 2 is incorrect. The universe is not pushing outwards, it is expanding. To be pushing outwards would require something for it to push against.

The idea of dark energy is a hypothetical (note: not theoretical, there is not enough proof for dark energy for it to be a theory) solution to the problem of an accelerating expansion of the universe.

Dark energy is not necessarily a logical conclusion as we do not have enough evidence to base it on, however unlike god the theory of dark energy can be tested empirically and proven incorrect which is why it is science while 'god did it' is faith.

Also the gravity particle you were talking about earlier is more likely than gremlins because it fits neatly into an established scientific theory with a very considerable amount of evidence behind it (quantum field theory) while gremlins do not fit into any theory and mostl likely can't be tested empirically.

 

How?  The current theory is "we can't detect it".  So in otherwords... there is no way to disprove dark energies existence.

Gravitons work the exact same way.  As do many other things that we make up to hold together our current model of physics because we don't have another one.

 

You're right, we can't detect it.

However unlike god, testing it is not an impossibility. There is no physically possible way to scientifically test the existence of god because he is theorised to exist in a higher plane of being, dark energy (if it exists) exists on our plane of being under our laws of physics and as such can be tested.

Us being unable to test it due to not having the technology doesn't make the science less valid, it just means its not proven - hence why dark energy is currently only considered hypothetical.

Why would it be impossible to detect a higher plane of being?

Afterall there is also a scientific theory that there are dimensions we can not perceive.  Certaintly a technology may be developed one day to detcect those.  Why not this "higher plane".