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disolitude on 07 May 2009
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ZZetaAlec said:
disolitude said:

@amp316

So you are a metal purist... which is fine. But there really isn't a point one should say..."ok this is metal" and say all other influences are not welcome. A band like Daath for example...they mix dance and metal a lot and it sounds amazing...cause its fresh and new. check out the song below...its one of the best Metal songs I've heard in the last 5 years easily. Its better and more creative than anything traditional bands like Maiden, Megadeth, Metallica or other classic traditional metal bands have done for many moons

 

Also, while Dave lombardo and Paul Bostoph are drumming legends for sure. However Andols Herrick from Chimaira and Kevin Talley from Daath are easily just as skilled and technical. Just because they don't play full blast all the time doesn't mean they are not as good...you have to play what the song calls for. Sometimes that takes a lot more skill...

I find it strange how you keep harkening back to this idea that newer band are inherently better than the older ones because they're being 'new' and 'different' while the older bands continue with the same sound. Well right in the sense that older band havn't revolutionised metal recently, largely because they already have. At the time of their inception their sound was vastly different to the other music at the time and this defined their style, and when a band reaches this point they aren't supposed to change it, they're supposed to stick with it and make it their own.

I don't have anything against Nu metal as such. I love SOaD and Toxicity, a record which arguably has revolutionised metal, but if it had been Megadeth on the cover I would have been disapointed, regardless of how innovative it was, because I've come to expect certain things from those groups that I fell in love with and when I put on one of their records I expect certain musical and styalistic choices that ultimatly define their sound, there's no need to go and re-invent it.

And when they do try look how it ends up: Metallica with Load, Megadeth with Risk, Slayer with Diabolus in Musica, Anthrax with Stomp 442 and Iron Maiden with the X-factor, records which alienated a lot of their respective fanbases and when they realised this they each appeard to go 'Ok, we fucked up' and returned to their much loved roots. The exeption to this is metallica who continued with the trend set by Load with eventually accumulated in 'St. Anger' without a doubt one of the most hated records in metal and pretty much the antithesis of everything Metallica built their fanbase around.

 

 

The thing is a lot of Megadeth fans were alienated when they released Countdown to Extiction and the more after Youthenasia. these were perfectly solid heavy metal albums, but they did not match the intensity of previous Megadeth work. Thankfully new fans were there to embrace the band...

Same with the Black album. Lots of old fans that were hoping for the next Master of puppets were dissapointed. But millions upon millions of fans embraced metallica while never hearing their older work.

Same way the Wii is evolving gaming. Sure, some old school gamers (like myself) look down upon it...but new fans are here ready to embrace the product.

This thread is partially about me finally realizing that (some) new bands are moving the genre forward with their sound...in the same way Metallica and Slayer did back in the day. Furthermore, a lot of these new bands are doing this while sounding a lot like the classic bands they used as influences. Trivum for example...people tend to ridicule them, but they are awfully close to the sound metallica hasn't recorded for decade...melodic bay area thrash. Chimaira's last few album also sounds a lot like pure death metal that bands like Death and Six feet under used to play.