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okr said:
FootballFan said:
okr said:

I wished football/soccer fans would stop creating these kind of threads. For an avid football fan like me (I'm currently watching Chelsea vs. Barcelona - go Barca!) most of the comments in these kind of threads - pro and con - make my head hurt.

@FootballFan: Like most football fans from England who feel the urgent need to try to make fun of US soccer ("supporting USA is almost a suicide"), you probably have never heard that the most successful female national team in the world is the one from USA (world champion in 1991 and 1999).

Oh wait, I forgot, women don't count, when boys discuss sports, so here's another one: the male US national soccer team is currently on FIFA world ranking #15, only 8 places behind England....

 Firstly, i didnt make fun of US soccer i made fun of US football. (World definition see football.)  Also those football rankings are not greatly reliable. Im not sure if you are aware but the its based on Ranking points and they are largly decided by how many wins you get. USA i believe play in the CONCACAF which is very poor standard of FOOTBALL. CONCACAF (the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football) is the continent-wide governing body for football in North America, Central America and the Caribbean. Three South American entities, the independent nations of Guyana and Suriname, and the French department of French Guiana, are also members.   These countries standards are nothing short of embarrasing compared to the quality of FOOTBALL Europeans have come to expect. USA may be high on the rankings but when you consider there monthly oposition its no suprise at all.

Also i would like to see France play against Croatia. Looking at the ranking though Croatia should be able to win so.... 

I knew exactly that you would answer something like this, i.e. that the rankings are "not greatly reliable". People always answer this when I bring the world rankings into the discussion. And my US women's soccer argument completely ignored, as usual...

You also said: "CONCACAF which is very poor standard of FOOTBALL" "These countries standards are nothing short of embarrasing compared to the quality of FOOTBALL Europeans have come to expect" and "USA may be high on the rankings but when you consider there monthly oposition its no suprise at all."

Poor standard? Embarrassing? I love football, and I think it's great that it's so popular in many countries and played all over the world. I experienced the WC tournament in my home country 3 years ago, the atmosphere created by all those fans was fantastic and I'm convinced that no other sport manages to bring more people from all the over the world and different cultures together. I don't care though if it's more popular in one country and less popular in another, if the one country calls it football, the other one soccer (South Africa for example). I also don't care if e.g. Luxemburg has a weaker national team than most other European countries or Gyuana a weaker one than USA. This doesn't make the weaker teams from small countries (who usually play with lots of amateurs who completely devote themselves to their sport) or the competition with them less worthy or "a poor standard" in my opinion.

If I would want to discuss on the same level you did here with I could as well ask people if they think that the fact that England has never won the European Championship title is embarrassing and if the other EU countries should consider them a serious competition. But I don't ask these kind of questions.

You call yourself a FootballFan, so we have at least one thing in common, and here's my question for you: Wouldn't it have been a better idea to create a thread to ask us other football/soccer fans why we LOVE it instead of asking the people who don't care about this sport why they don't?

 

I love you  :D  lol  

 

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