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ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:
megaman79 said:
SciFiBoy said:

@ Kasz216

your post started so well, then you went back to "religous peeps > atheist peeps"

you cannot make that argument from an un-biased logical starting viewpoint, nor can i (nor have i or will i do so) claim that "atheist peeps > religous peeps"

i can only say that i feel that i am right about god not existing, just as you can only say that religous people feel they are right

its not a black and white debate, there can be no winner until we can prove either that God 100% does exist or 100% does not, i know this, why dont you?

Edit: specifically on the issue at hand, you cannot claim that religous people are more altruistic, as it dosent work like that, either people can be altruistic or they cant, id argue that altruism dosent exist, so neither side can be more or less something that dosent exist.

 

I can prove it. If God lives in heaven where is heaven? Where in the universe does heaven exist? Is it invisible?

If Heaven doesn't exist, and also considering the way many religions are now taking science based data in to account, then where is God? If religion takes account of some scientific principles and not others isn't that hypocritical?

By making that arguement your actually ignoring a number of scientific principles.

For one... is that we almost definitly can't perceive all dimensions.  We live in a 3D world but the truth is... there is likely many many more dimensions.  Also electrons that seem to be created out of nothingness...etc.

 

electrons, actually screw these low level particles, super-particles were formed when gravity's bond broke off from the massive energy source which contained gravity, magnetism, and whatever the last bond was (looking up right now, will ed it after I find it).

This cataclysmic event created enough of an eruption of energy it created the super particles, particles as we know (standard protons, electrons, and neutrons), nuclei, and matter. Of course it did also create Dark Matter and Dark Energy which we still have pretty much zero idea what they are other than both are all around us and passing through us.

The only thing is that there are probably other more powerful particles that were created and still probably exist just at an instantly limited amount. These "god" particles were formed in the first few nanoseconds to maybe even three seconds of the big bang. If we can discover what happened and what formed a ton of things could be explained. 

 

We don't even know that.  Nobodys actually proven these things exist.  It just seems likely they exist.

Something is happening and we've decided that an undetectable, unproveable (at this time) has done it.