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Ascended_Saiyan3 on 05 May 2009
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Alterego-X said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
Alterego-X said:

But what makes you believe that Sony will release it later?

Because, time is on the PS3's side.  The differences between it and the X360 become greater as time progresses. 

LOL, you make it sound like if processing power would be arelevant to any console's success. 

 

The manufacturing advantage goes to Sony (for chip shrinkage and slimer designs).  The perception of a big price difference will desolve as well. 

How, exactly? Microsoft can cut their prices too, both by reducing production costs, and by making losses, especially so because of their huge, stable financial background.

$200 xbox360 vs. $300 PS3?  

$100 xbox 360 vs. $200 PS3? 

 

MS already said they want to get out first again.

And Sony didn't say if they want to challenge them in that, or not. (the 10 year plan is about something else).

 

Sony will be in a better boat the longer they can keep from putting out the PS4.  Usually, PS launches around the 5 to 6 year mark of the previous console generation.  That's what makes me believe Sony will release it later.

There is no point in comparing the PS generations to each other. A giant corporation is not working like a human mind that has its own habits, and tricks. It is working as the market requires.

PS2, the best selling console ever, was so popular that it was in the front line for 6 years.

xbox 1, was financially the worst of the last gen, and it lasted for 4 years before Microsoft had no reason to continue.

The gamecube was somewhere in-between, with low sales, but nice profitability, to last for 5 years, that is an avarage for most consoles.


The PS3 has the (lack of) profitability of the xbox 1, but it is mostly compensated with better sales. This is why I expect it to be released in 2011 after 5 years, and not in 2012 after 6 years, that would be the length of an extraordinarily successful console, that it isn't.

 

 

1. This generation of gamers seem to care about two things.  Buying a console that is considered the best and a console that has the hottest current and future games.  Since 2008, we know where that's heading.  The public was seeing that too, right up until MS's price cut.  That caused the year to end in a worldwide tie between the two consoles.  Those things matter.

2. The manufacturing advantage goes to Sony for obvious reasons. Sony owners their own facilities and specialize in chip design/shrinkage process.  The PS3 was designed with this in mind (hence one of the reasons for no eDRAM).  Sony came out a year after the X360 and is already about to put out 45nm chips.  MS is JUST came out with 65nm chips in Dec. at retailers.  I would call that a pretty big manufacturing advantage, no?  Sure MS can keep dropping prices, but they want to make money.  Would they go back to lossing money in their 4th year after barely making some profit?

3. No, Sony didn't say they wanted to challenge MS on release times.  However, it's good business to follow soon after.  Sony already sees the issues people are having with the one year difference in launch time.  You have people claiming X360 is selling better due to not aligning launches.  Public perception plays a certain role in future sales.

4. You can compare PS generations as long as the business model hasn't changed.  According to the developers, it hasn't.  Therefore, a comparison of tactics is completely warranted.  Don't confuse the results with the business model.

MS had plenty reason to continue from the original Xbox.  It was never about the 1st Xbox.  It was about THIS Xbox.  If this one didn't sell more than the 1st, they might would try one more time.  They still have to see if they can make the X360 pay for itself.  It has quite some distance to go.

5. NO console in recent history has made a profit within 2 years except the Wii.  It's NOT the business model consoles usually stick with.  Usually PS is profitable by now, but the PS3 is taking a bit longer.  Last estimated have it almost breaking even.  People need to remember the PS3 has barely been out 2 years in Europe and about 6 months longer in US and Japan.  There is a LONG way to go in the PS3's lifecycle.