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WereKitten said:
One_touch_KO said:
Zlejedi said:
One_touch_KO said:

I've been thinking about this. PS3 is a technological beast... Such a beast that Sony is not due to have profit with it untill it drops to about 200€ in maybe 2011.

Sorry but before we can discuss anything please at least get your facts correctly. PS3 cost of production was estimated to cost 450$ to produce in last year. Either it's already profitable or will be profitable soon.

 

Get you your facts correctly. Do you think Sony sell PS3 for 400$?

 

NO!

Retails does. The consoles goes on a course of shipment costs, distributors and so on untill it reaches retail at a 400$ pricetag for the consumer. Sony might sell them at 150$ in maximum.

 

By your logic Nintendo makes astronomic profit on the Wii eh? Well, they make about 7$ for each Wii sold.

 

STFU

Actually for what I know, retailers make an extremely small margin on consoles, and yes, Sony sells them at close to $400. Retailers mainly margin on accessories, secondarily from games.

And the Wii made $6 per console in dec 2007, and we know that it made a profit for Nintendo since launch. Meanwhile, we know that from launch the manufacturing cost of a Wii went down 45%. Do your own math.

As to the PS3, it's going to move to 45nm chips this summer, that's supposed to lower the costs by something like 85-150$ (i've read different numbers). Where are you pulling your dates and numbers from?

That sounds a bit too much. Cell it self cost some where around 50 to 90 $ (Usually I have seen estimations ~60$ to 65 nm chip and ~90$ to 90nm chip). 45 nm chip would reduce cost somewhere ~30$ per chip (uneducated guess). Of course Sony can shrink cooling system of PS3 at same time, but that really can't be worth of 55$ to 120$ per console.

What else Sony can cut from PS3?. Remember that 40 Gb version have 50% less parts than original 80 Gb PS3 version, so how much more they can cut off parts from PS3 without losing features like Wifi? GPU is from NVidia and if Sony did do similar deal with NVidia as Microsoft did with original XBox, then all price reductions of GPU will go to Nvidias pocket. Even Sony had better deal, that 85-150$ estimation sounds just too big to be true.