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nightsurge on 30 April 2009
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Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
Dodece said:
To put this into context he is saying that Sony will win this generation after it is over. How fucking pathetic is that to win after the contest is decided. After the competition has retired their old machines, and replaced them with newer models that are ten times more powerful then your machine. Which your not going to have the decency to put out of its misery.

 

Why do people KEEP saying this?   Console generations 'competitions' keep going AS LONG AS THE PRODUCTS REMAIN SOLD.  I mean why wouldn't they?   We don't discount the 360's first year because it was before Wii and PS3.  If Sony were to somehow pull a magical rabbit out of their ass and outsell the Wii by 2012/2014.....They have won the generation.

According to Sony the generation didn't start till they joined it

Although, your point only works if all current gen systems are still being sold alongside the PS3 during that time frame.  What we are all saying is that within 5 years, the Wii and 360 will likely be discontinued so there really isn't any merit in "winning" if the PS3 reaches higher lifetime sales after that point.

 

No, the point doesn't only work if all the systems are still being sold alongside it.  It works as long as a product is being consumed and purchased on the market.  The only reason these sales matter anyways is for the bottom lines of the respective companies.

So Last generation still has not ended then?  Interesting.  In terms of profits for the company, sure no big deal, but the "gen" is over.  It ends the day all the new consoles for the next gen are released.

I understand that but if the PS3 can still be sold on the market within 5 years and it so happens to fly off the shelves and outsell the 360/Wii.....Why doesn't that count?   Again any money made is going to go towards the games and the system and whatever else.

It counts for money to the company, but it does not count as "winning" the generation since that has long ended.

I'd agree that Sony shouldn't walk around and strut their shoulders if that's how they had to win,  but winning is winning. 

I don't think you can win if the race is already over.  That's like saying that you ran a race with two other people, and they both finished 3 minutes ahead of you, but you finished the race and took an extra 10 meter jog so you win?  Doesn't work that way.  They get more sales, and more profits after the generation is over, but the gen ends when the new consoles are released and you can't count it as "winning" the gen anymore.

Having more sales than your competitor is one of the primary focuses for each company.  Having more sales and getting the format you wanted out on the market?   Double win for them in their eyes.

 

I'll say this another way.  If someway Sony found a way to forego technology and the PS3 could be scaled to become a 20 year product (And this was some of the initial cost that they put into the product).   And the PS3 sold for the next 20 years?  It would win the console generation because it designed a product with the most actual / market longevity.

Yeah if Sony never releases another console for the next 17 years, I'll give them this generations "win", but that is never going to happen.