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akuma587 on 30 April 2009
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Tyrannical said:
akuma587 said:

Even if it does work, IT DOESN'T MATTER. Its wrong. Nuking the Middle East would be a great way to solve a lot of our problems. But you know why we don't do it? Because it is wrong.

And does it even make us safer?  How many people, including those who are not terrorists, have we encouraged to hate America because of things like this?  How many terrorists did these policies help create?  Is that effective counter-terrorism?  Is making people hate us more a good way to prevent future terrorist attacks?

 

 Instead of keeping related posts in one topic, you decide to create a new one claiming torture doesn't work. I disagree.

Now you say it doesn't matter if it does work. Well, which is it? Any point discussing the morality of torture relies on wether it does or does not work.

And, you are stealing my hard earned VG chartz money by needlessly making duplicate topics.

Its called looking at two sides of a coin.  1) It is ineffective, 2) Even if it is effective, we still shouldn't do it because it is wrong.  I guess making more than one argument at once is too much for your brain to handle.

And are you kidding me?  Morality has nothing to do with whether something works or not.  Nukes work pretty damn well.  Swindling money out of people can work pretty well.  Getting an abortion is a pretty damn good way to get rid of a baby.  That doesn't mean that choosing to do those things is morally sound.  Morality has nothing whatsoever to do with whether something works or not.  What kind of warped morality do you practice?

 



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