If I were a Palestinian...

[pakidan101]

MontanaHatchet said:

pakidan101 said:

MontanaHatchet said:

pakidan101 said:

MontanaHatchet said:
Ownership of land is decided by the most powerful people. No one really deserves the land, no matter when they lived there or what the circumstance. It's land. If the people in power believe that it should be Israel, then tough luck.

 

So basically...if the US had "lost" the Cold War, and the USSR decided "What the hell, lets just take the US for ourselves" you would totally understand if you lost your house and your livelihood?

 

Just wanted to ask...see how much conviction you have behind that stance, 'tis all.

I wouldn't support it, but it's not like I could do anything about it. That's the point of someone being in power. Civilizations have been fighting over this relatively small plot of land for a long time now, and it's been under control by many different nations. Is one more deserving than the other? No, it's land. Just because it has holy connotations to a bajillion different groups doesn't mean that one deserves it more than another. I know I'm pestering the wrong person, but still, the whole debate is silly.

 

That is pretty much a defeatist point of view, don't you think? The people of Palestine seem to be the type who don't want to just roll over and just take it. Are they using the right venue to get their land back? That is up for debate and I don't think killing civilians is sending the right message...it is getting them attention like they planned, but not the right way. Sure, it maybe land to you, but for them it is home. And fighting for ones homes is a fight worth fighting for...so long as it is done properly.

 

 

So what you're saying is...if the Soviet army took over the U.S. and I was being threatened by soldiers with automatic weapons, that it would be defeatist to think that there's nothing I could do? That is the point of occupying a country. Rebellions against occupiers often take such a long time for that very reason.

And it's a lot of people's "homes", and no one is really correct since the only thing that has decided who controlled what land during human history is who could control it.

 

 

Well, actually yes. In fact...that is the prime definition of acting as a defeatist. To think that you can't do anything at all to fix your situation is having a defeatist attitude.

 

Would you be able to do anything at that exact moment? Prolly not and thinking that you can't do anything there is prolly a smart reflex. But to just sit there for years, just telling yourself that its over and you can't do anything so I should just sit here and just obey whoever is in control is a defeatist attitude.

 

That is what the Palestinians, who are fighting for what they believe in, do not want to feel like doing. And neither do the Israelis. This is why this fight is never going to settle until the new generations finally understand that they are both people and looking for a place to live...even if it means together. And that won't happen until somebody admits they are wrong in excluding the other from the "piece of land."