I think it is safe to say that fror the most part "only" hardcore gamers are buying 360's and PS3's right now...the casual gamers are buying Wii's like kid's buying Candy.I don't think casual gamers even look at 360's or PS3's right now.Hell all of the real good 360 games are "M"rated not real great for casual of family gaming.i would like to see a sales chart on the "core"360 since the Wii launched.Not being a Nintendo hater but the "Hardcore Gamers" should really be owning or wanting to own both the 360 and PS3.