| pakidan101 said: If the ideals of freedom, liberty and justice can be thrown away so easily when faced with a problem....then those ideals were never the principles of America nor the principles of those who support torture for protection. They were just slogans to put on a bumper sticker for your car. |
Could not have said it better myself. You can't defend America or Americans if you throw away the Constitution in the process. There's nothing left to defend. A country is its Constitution. Sometimes that means making hard choices that could even be dangerous.
And also, please, Timmah, point to the information we obtained from this guy that saved anyone's life. And don't point to anything about the L.A. Tower, as that information was obtained before these "enhanced interrogation techniques" were authorized.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
