How do you think we are going to pay for it all?

[akuma587]

TheRealMafoo said:

highwaystar101 said:

TheRealMafoo said:

highwaystar101 said:

I have faith Obama will handle the financial situation well though.

 

Why?

What has he done to give you that faith? I mean he is a great speaker, and motivator, but personality won’t get us out of this (in fact, it’s what’s getting us deeper into it).

 

Personal perspective I guess. He has said a fair few things where I have thought "yeah, that's a good idea". Not the same for everyone I know, but as I said I had faith... which isn't the same as fact lol

 

Fair enough. My personal perspective is I agree with our founding fathers. Our form of government was put into place to protect its people from the good intentions of man.

No one in the history of the US (aside from maybe Washington), has had more power or influence then Obama. No one has wanted to change what government means more then Obama.

To me, that’s a very scary combination.

You love talking about the Constitution without actually citing to anything in the Constitution don't you?

You are mistaking fear of one type of government for another.  How many provisions in the Bill of Rights have to do with protections for criminals, such as the detainees, versus how many have to do with protection from the government raising your taxes and taking property?  I count 13 vs. 4.  So if any President walks all over the rights in the Bill of Rights, it is one who dispels with the protections afforded to criminals, as there are significantly more of those.

The Constitution was made compared to the Articles of Confederacy as the government did not have ENOUGH power to raise taxes under the previous form of government.  So if anything, you have things completely backwards.  The Framers wanted to give the government more power than they previously had to raise taxes.

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• Second Amendment – Militia (United States), Sovereign state, Law of Arms.

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• Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.

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• Fifth Amendment – due process, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, eminent domain.

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