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Kasz216 said:
akuma587 said:
I'll be happy if Iraq turns out to be a war we ultimately win. I don't want it to disintegrate like Vietnam did. I don't benefit from that in any way whatsoever and it would just hurt everyone, especially the Iraqi people. I just think we wanted to get our dicks wet with another war and didn't realize what we were getting ourselves into, like we did with Vietnam.

It wasn't that.  It was just a complete lack of planning.  Iraq had no reason to end up how it did.  Except for an incredible lack of planning and a number of really stupid maneuvers as soon as they took over.

 

Vietnam was an unwinnable war because it was a groundwar with the chinese.  In which we couldn't invade to far without worrying about provoking setting off a nuclear war.

Absolutely, but the end result is similar.  Our exit strategy was just plain non-existent (partially because I think some people in charge didn't WANT to leave Iraq).  Too much financial opportunity. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/blood-and-oil-how-the-west-will-profit-from-iraqs-most-precious-commodity-431119.html

Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Defense Secretary at the time of the war and now head of the World Bank, told Congress: "We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon."

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson