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akuma587 said:
HappySqurriel said:

Water Boarding really isn't THAT bad ... It is actually part of the training to become a member of branches of the United States (and other countries) special services.

It certainly isn't an enjoyable experience, and it is probably inappropriate to perform as an interogation method, but (like most of the "torture" that is being used by the United States the problems associated with waterboarding are greatly exaggerated

 

Then why did America execute Japanese soldiers who waterboarded American troops?  We obviously thought it was serious enough to KILL people over it.

Yes, National Review, We Did Execute Japanese for Waterboarding

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-begala/yes-inational-reviewi-we_b_191153.html

"McCain is referencing the Tokyo Trials, officially known as the International Military Tribunal for the Far East. After World War II, an international coalition convened to prosecute Japanese soldiers charged with torture. At the top of the list of techniques was water-based interrogation, known variously then as 'water cure,' 'water torture' and 'waterboarding,' according to the charging documents. It simulates drowning." Politifact went on to report, "A number of the Japanese soldiers convicted by American judges were hanged, while others received lengthy prison sentences or time in labor camps."

 

 

 Because  the Japanese waterboarding was very different. How convenient for your argument to neglect that fact. I assume they teach dishonesty in law school these days?

During World War II both Japanese troops, especially the Kempeitai, and the officers of the Gestapo,[64] the German secret police, used waterboarding as a method of torture.[65] During the Japanese occupation of Singapore the Double Tenth Incident occurred. This included waterboarding, by the method of binding or holding down the victim on his back, placing a cloth over his mouth and nose, and pouring water onto the cloth. In this version, interrogation continued during the torture, with the interrogators beating the victim if he did not reply and the victim swallowing water if he opened his mouth to answer or breathe. When the victim could ingest no more water, the interrogators would beat or jump on his distended stomach



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