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akuma587 on 24 April 2009
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TheRealMafoo said:
akuma587 said:

I find it laughable that people still stand by state's rights when states have so thoroughly abused their power that it has been increasingly taken away from them as the country has gone on.

 

If they were rights, how does one take them away?

And I think it's funny that you feel they were taken away because they abused them. I guess this is why you are for taking my rights away. You feel I abuse them.

With the 14th Amendment and the Due Process Clause in the 14th that the states all ratified...they GAVE UP their rights to the federal government.  There is no rule that says you can't voluntarily give up your rights. 

Before then, the states didn't have to obey the Bill of Rights, and The Supreme Court wasn't enforcing it against them until about 100 years later.  Fortunately that all changed in the 50-60's.

Rights are regularly taken away if you abuse them.  If you commit crimes and kill people, you are thrown in jail and lose your freedom.  If you swindle people out of their money, they can sue you for it and you can lose your property.  If you injure people because you are reckless, you can be sued and also go to jail.  Rights are not absolute.  You abuse them and you lose them.  That is what happened to the states and why if you wanted to re-join the Union you had to ratify the 14th and 15th Amendment.

 



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