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akuma587 said:

What rules have changed?  States don't have to take federal money if they don't want it.  The federal government doesn't tax states directly.  And do you honestly think that the states would not have to jack up their tax rates to maintain themselves as a national entity?

And the states have been SO benevolent with their powers. They were certainly not the ones who have committed some of the biggest atrocities to the Constitution. I find it laughable that people still stand by state's rights when states have so thoroughly abused their power that it has been increasingly taken away from them as the country has gone on.

Not to mention the Confederacy was a miserable failure as a working model of government.  Its not like the states who seceded even had a good alternative.  Imagine trying to coordinate something like a comprehensive counter-terrorism program between a bunch of states who can't agree on anything?  Not to mention even Mexico or Canda could probably take on just about any state that seceded.

I can't even believe we are having a serious talk about secession THREE MONTHS into Obama's presidency considering how any liberals who criticized the government were lambasted as traitors.  At least they never suggested secession.

I'm going to guess he means... secession.

"If any state in the Union will declare that it prefers separation ... to a continuance in the union .... I have no hesitation in saying, 'Let us separate.'"

- Thomas Jefferson, our third president. (while president.)

 

Even at the time of the Civil War... the Northern newspapers had editorials suggesting that keeping the south in the union would be wrong.


Up until the Civil War Secession was considered a right.